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So Carli Lloyd has got all the misogynistic NFL fans all upset.  Saying no way she could be a kicker.  NFL too rough.  Like how many kickers ever tackle anyone.  I find it hilarious that there are so many football fans so insecure in themselves that they don't want a female playing in the NFL.

I think she has a decent shot too make it.  You can watch kickers before games.  All of them can hit pretty consistently from 55 yards.  What separates the good kickers from the bad kickers is nerves.  I have seen guys hit from 65 yards time after time before the game and then miss chip shots during the game.  

And a kicker should never try and tackle anyone.  If they don't tackle someone and they make field goals they will always have a job. If they tackle someone and get hurt they will be cut. 

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2 hours ago, backwardsk said:

How are her kickoffs?  Do they have enough distance and hangtime?

The reports that I read, her 55 yard field goals, had plenty of height and distance, wasnt just barely making it.

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Let's see how she kicks with a step and a half with real athletes coming at her.  She is largely a self promotion feeding off the World Cup. Next I expect her to be kicking around the idea of promoting men's fragrances.

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15 hours ago, birdwatcher55 said:

Let's see how she kicks with a step and a half with real athletes coming at her.  She is largely a self promotion feeding off the World Cup. Next I expect her to be kicking around the idea of promoting men's fragrances.

Dang, no other athlete in history has ever done that.

I dont think this thing is as crazy an idea as some.

There is a shortage of kickers in the NFL who can kick and stay healthy.

So if he can legimately kick, and can land somewhere, based on her leg skills, and not just because she is a publicity stunt, something like Bill Veeck would have done, back in the day, then more power to her.

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If she can kick, she can kick.  I think this is being blown out of proportion a little bit.  Yeah it will be a big moment if it ever happens, and I certainly hope she never gets crushed by a guy more than twice her weight or whatever.........but if she's willing to do it and a team is interested in her.......why not.

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22 hours ago, birdwatcher55 said:

Let's see how she kicks with a step and a half with real athletes coming at her.  She is largely a self promotion feeding off the World Cup. Next I expect her to be kicking around the idea of promoting men's fragrances.

C'mon, seriously? She's most likely more muscle and just as capable of taking a hit than half the kickers in the NFL.  Not to say she probably wouldn't receive a cheap shot or two for being a woman, but aside from that I think this view is extremely short sighted and belongs back in the 60s.  Women are real athletes.  Hell, I have no shame in admitting that more than likely every woman on the UFC roster could destroy me and I used to wrestle, box, and was a black belt in addition to playing football and rugby. 

Also, how often do you see a kicker take a hit?  Even Justin Tucker avoids contact or makes ankle tackles.

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15 hours ago, jarman86 said:

C'mon, seriously? She's most likely more muscle and just as capable of taking a hit than half the kickers in the NFL.  Not to say she probably wouldn't receive a cheap shot or two for being a woman, but aside from that I think this view is extremely short sighted and belongs back in the 60s.  Women are real athletes.  Hell, I have no shame in admitting that more than likely every woman on the UFC roster could destroy me and I used to wrestle, box, and was a black belt in addition to playing football and rugby. 

Also, how often do you see a kicker take a hit?  Even Justin Tucker avoids contact or makes ankle tackles.

Hell, Deion Sanders was known as a flake, he hated to tackle or get involved with contact. His uniform was always the whitest of his teammates.

Check out this clip, and how this high school girl puts her shoulder into the runner and takes him out.

 

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22 hours ago, Aglets said:

If she can kick, she can kick.  I think this is being blown out of proportion a little bit.  Yeah it will be a big moment if it ever happens, and I certainly hope she never gets crushed by a guy more than twice her weight or whatever.........but if she's willing to do it and a team is interested in her.......why not.

You could say that about any kicker in the NFL.   

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On 9/4/2019 at 5:57 PM, birdwatcher55 said:

Let's see how she kicks with a step and a half with real athletes coming at her.  She is largely a self promotion feeding off the World Cup. Next I expect her to be kicking around the idea of promoting men's fragrances.

Like I said most guys getting a chance in the NFL can kick consistently in practice. It is how you handle stress in a game and don't let a miss effect your next kicks.  She has said she wants to train for it and come back next year when she is ready.  I hope she does it just to make all the people like you upset.  

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49 minutes ago, atomic said:

Like I said most guys getting a chance in the NFL can kick consistently in practice. It is how you handle stress in a game and don't let a miss effect your next kicks.  She has said she wants to train for it and come back next year when she is ready.  I hope she does it just to make all the people like you upset.  

It reminds me of when the NFL went out and got a couple of soccer guys to come over and kick, and of course, that did not sit with with a few of the narrow minded.

On this subject, you and I are in agreement.

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1 hour ago, atomic said:

You could say that about any kicker in the NFL.   

No actually, because math is a thing.   Data taken from here:  https://www.businessinsider.com/awesome-visualization-shows-height-and-weight-of-nfl-players-by-position-2013-10

Carli Lloyd - 140 lbs

Average defensive end - 280-290 lbs?    Tackles are over 300.

Average NFL linebacker - 250 lbs

Average weight of NFL kicker - around 200 lbs

Those differences matter statistically, and should be taken into consideration by Carli and any team interested in signing her.  

But if she wants to do it, signs a contract, and can make the kicks, that's great and I hope she has a great career.  No problem with it here.

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2 hours ago, Aglets said:

No actually, because math is a thing.   Data taken from here:  https://www.businessinsider.com/awesome-visualization-shows-height-and-weight-of-nfl-players-by-position-2013-10

Carli Lloyd - 140 lbs

Average defensive end - 280-290 lbs?    Tackles are over 300.

Average NFL linebacker - 250 lbs

Average weight of NFL kicker - around 200 lbs

Those differences matter statistically, and should be taken into consideration by Carli and any team interested in signing her.  

But if she wants to do it, signs a contract, and can make the kicks, that's great and I hope she has a great career.  No problem with it here.

Carlos Santos claims to be 5'8 and 160 pounds.  As male athletes often lie about their height he is probably smaller and lighter.  There are plenty of receivers and corner backs that get into physical play that are in the 160 to 170 pound range.  They take and give hits.   A kicker very rarely gets hit.   If you were talking about a position other than kicker or punter your argument might have merit.  But how ofter do kickers get hit?

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