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  • Jonathan Villar  -$10.4MM......Whoa Nellie
  • Mychal Givens – $3.2MM
  • Dylan Bundy – $5.7MM.....Huge jump
  • Hanser Alberto – $1.9MM
  • Miguel Castro – $1.2MM
  • Richard Bleier – $1.1MM
  • Trey Mancini – $5.7MM.....For a first time arbitration guy?
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Unless its to keep the losses above 100 I can't see bringing Givens back

We could win 60 games if we don't  have Givens and Davis on the roster... so maybe keep them both and get a third straight top 5 pick

 

 

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20 minutes ago, wildcard said:
  • Jonathan Villar  -$10.4MM......Whoa Nellie
  • Mychal Givens – $3.2MM
  • Dylan Bundy – $5.7MM.....Huge jump
  • Hanser Alberto – $1.9MM
  • Miguel Castro – $1.2MM
  • Richard Bleier – $1.1MM
  • Trey Mancini – $5.7MM.....For a first time arbitration guy?

Wow, So like how much was Givens worth when his HR/9 was 0.5 instead of 1.9 like it is now?

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Was this just posted?  I was looking for this last night when discussing Mancini.

That does seem high. I was thinking around 4 or less based on 2018 guys.  If he’s expected to get that much in arbitration, it’s going to be hard to extend him to a team-friendly deal, IMO.

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6 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

Was this just posted?  I was looking for this last night when discussing Mancini.

That does seem high. I was thinking around 4 or less based on 2018 guys.  If he’s expected to get that much in arbitration, it’s going to be hard to extend him to a team-friendly deal, IMO.

No way Trey is making that as a year one guy.  

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I can't see them paying Villar that kind of dough.  Looks to me like Richie Martin is the favorite to open the season at SS.  I like Villar, and appreciate his energy and talent, but I can't see them paying that much on a team that's not expected to win.

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40 minutes ago, ChipTait said:

I can't see them paying Villar that kind of dough.  Looks to me like Richie Martin is the favorite to open the season at SS.  I like Villar, and appreciate his energy and talent, but I can't see them paying that much on a team that's not expected to win.

If Villar is nontendered, any chance he gets a deal with a $10M AAV?  I have a hard time believing that.

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41 minutes ago, Natty said:

Is Bundy worth $5.7M to the Orioles?

That's cheap for a starting pitcher who can throw 160-170 competent innings. 

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2 hours ago, wildcard said:
  • Jonathan Villar  -$10.4MM......Whoa Nellie NOT IT
  • Mychal Givens – $3.2MM NOT IT
  • Dylan Bundy – $5.7MM.....Huge jump  NOT IT
  • Hanser Alberto – $1.9MM IT
  • Miguel Castro – $1.2MM NOT IT
  • Richard Bleier – $1.1MM NOT IT
  • Trey Mancini – $5.7MM.....For a first time arbitration guy? NOT IT

Yeah.

 

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7 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

If Villar is nontendered, any chance he gets a deal with a $10M AAV?  I have a hard time believing that.

You are correct sir.  He won't get an AAV of 7.5

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