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11 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

I was lucky that my Dad bought a program and wrote down the lineups and made a note that the game had the highest regular season Oriole attendance ever up to that date.  So thanks to bb-ref it was pretty easy to track down.

Start time: 7:41 pm

Game time: 3:20

You were up well past your bedtime, young man!

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8 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

My first game was a senators game, I remember the players, just not the game itself, and back then they used to give out real Louisville sluggers to kids attending games.  I loved mine, did mine my handle up with the rough black electrical tape of that era, and the bigger i got, the better I was able to use that awesome bat. Damn, I wish my old man hadnt toss that SOB when I left home.

 

Yeah, I had a few of those Bat Day bats.    Can you imagine any team doing that today?

I remember going to Seat Cushion Day one time.   The game got way out of hand and it was a very sloppy game.   Some guy flung his seat cushion onto the field and then there was a barrage of seat cushions flying around.    Wouldn’t want to see something similar on Bat Day.   

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2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Start time: 7:41 pm

Game time: 3:20

You were up well past your bedtime, young man!

And it was a bus trip with Dad's work, so I'm sure we didn't get home until between 1 and 2am. I was eight, so yea, well past my bedtime.  I think somewhere I still have the felt pennant he bought me that night.  And I definitely have the program.  We sat in the yellow mezzanine seats on the third base side.

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2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Yeah, I had a few of those Bat Day bats.    Can you imagine any team doing that today?

I remember going to Seat Cushion Day one time.   The game got way out of hand and it was a very sloppy game.   Some guy flung his seat cushion onto the field and then there was a barrage of seat cushions flying around.    Wouldn’t want to see something similar on Bat Day.   

Didn't the Mets have baseball day that they had to forfeit, or almost forfeit, sometime in the last 10, maybe 15 years?  Balls thrown everywhere. Last time that will happen.

(I might be thinking of the Dodgers, and it was 1995).

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4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Yeah, I had a few of those Bat Day bats.    Can you imagine any team doing that today?

I remember going to Seat Cushion Day one time.   The game got way out of hand and it was a very sloppy game.   Some guy flung his seat cushion onto the field and then there was a barrage of seat cushions flying around.    Wouldn’t want to see something similar on Bat Day.   

Edit: apparently, “some guy” was John Lowenstein.   
 

A few years ago, in the late innings of a lopsided loss against the Oakland A's on "seat cushion night" at Memorial Stadium, Lowenstein picked up his own cushion and sailed it onto the field. Hundreds more followed from the stands and play had to be halted to pick them all up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1992/07/03/proctor-lowenstein-serve-up-a-lighter-fare/006816b4-b347-4564-8bb8-abb31461a9c2/

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6 hours ago, Redskins Rick said:

I dislike Jeter the person, Jeter being a pinstriper.

While he wasnt much with the glove, its hard to deny his ability with the bat.

For the life of me, I dont get the clowns that voted him so many GG. His career dWAR was like -8.3.

Does he beyond in the HOF as a first ballot yes, I hate to see him get unanimous, when so many before him, deserved and didnt.

Somebody said once, who cares if I got in by unanimous, I am in, and thats the bottom line.

 

Is it though? I mean, the batting average and runs scored are nice, but the HRs and RBIs are pretty pedestrian in the era of the hitting shortstops. Definitely not a 1st ballet selection if you take away the celebrity / Yankee lore IMO. 

 

Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1995 21 NYY AL 15 51 48 5 12 4 1 0 7 0 0 3 11 .250 .294 .375 .669 74 18 0 0 0 0 0 6  
1996 22 NYY AL 157 654 582 104 183 25 6 10 78 14 7 48 102 .314 .370 .430 .800 101 250 13 9 6 9 1 *6 RoY-1
1997 23 NYY AL 159 748 654 116 190 31 7 10 70 23 12 74 125 .291 .370 .405 .775 103 265 14 10 8 2 0 *6 MVP-24
1998 24 NYY AL 149 694 626 127 203 25 8 19 84 30 6 57 119 .324 .384 .481 .864 127 301 13 5 3 3 1 *6 AS,MVP-3
1999 25 NYY AL 158 739 627 134 219 37 9 24 102 19 8 91 116 .349 .438 .552 .989 153 346 12 12 3 6 5 *6 AS,MVP-6
2000 26 NYY AL 148 679 593 119 201 31 4 15 73 22 4 68 99 .339 .416 .481 .896 128 285 14 12 3 3 4 *6 AS,MVP-10
2001 27 NYY AL 150 686 614 110 191 35 3 21 74 27 3 56 99 .311 .377 .480 .858 124 295 13 10 5 1 3 *6 AS,MVP-10
2002 28 NYY AL 157 730 644 124 191 26 0 18 75 32 3 73 114 .297 .373 .421 .794 111 271 14 7 3 3 2 *6/D AS
2003 29 NYY AL 119 542 482 87 156 25 3 10 52 11 5 43 88 .324 .393 .450 .844 125 217 10 13 3 1 2 *6 MVP-21
2004 30 NYY AL 154 721 643 111 188 44 1 23 78 23 4 46 99 .292 .352 .471 .823 114 303 19 14 16 2 1 *6 AS,MVP-13,GG
2005 31 NYY AL 159 752 654 122 202 25 5 19 70 14 5 77 117 .309 .389 .450 .839 125 294 15 11 7 3 3 *6/D MVP-10,GG
2006 32 NYY AL 154 715 623 118 214 39 3 14 97 34 5 69 102 .343 .417 .483 .900 132 301 13 12 7 4 4 *6/D AS,MVP-2,GG,SS
2007 33 NYY AL 156 714 639 102 206 39 4 12 73 15 8 56 100 .322 .388 .452 .840 121 289 21 14 3 2 3 *6 AS,MVP-11,SS
2008 34 NYY AL 150 668 596 88 179 25 3 11 69 11 5 52 85 .300 .363 .408 .771 102 243 24 9 7 4 0 *6/D AS,SS
2009 35 NYY AL 153 716 634 107 212 27 1 18 66 30 5 72 90 .334 .406 .465 .871 125 295 18 5 4 1 4 *6/D AS,MVP-3,GG,SS
2010 36 NYY AL 157 739 663 111 179 30 3 10 67 18 5 63 106 .270 .340 .370 .710 90 245 22 9 1 3 4 *6/D AS,GG
2011 37 NYY AL 131 607 546 84 162 24 4 6 61 16 6 46 81 .297 .355 .388 .743 100 212 10 6 4 5 0 *6D AS
2012 38 NYY AL 159 740 683 99 216 32 0 15 58 9 4 45 90 .316 .362 .429 .791 114 293 24 5 6 1 1 *6D AS,MVP-7,SS
2013 39 NYY AL 17 73 63 8 12 1 0 1 7 0 0 8 10 .190 .288 .254 .542 52 16 3 1 0 1 1 6/D  
2014 40 NYY AL 145 634 581 47 149 19 1 4 50 10 2 35 87 .256 .304 .313 .617 76 182 15 6 8 4 0 *

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I don't know if it was my first game or not, but I remember my Dad taking me to an O's game against Detroit and they had a pitcher named Ron Nischwitz.  This man sitting behind us yelled out real loud "Hey Nitwit!" when he was announced.  Being 8 years old, that sent me into a giggling fit that lasted a couple of innings.

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I don’t like Jeter and think he is overrated but you can vote for 10 players so I see no reason he isn’t a unanimous choice.  I would like to see Bonds and Clemens get in this year.  
 

As for BRob I suspect this will be the only year he is on the ballot. 

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1 hour ago, Frobby said:

I have no memory at all of the first baseball game I ever attended.   I’m sure it involved the Senators.   Who they played and what year it was, I have no idea.    My dad had a friend who worked for a U.S. Senator, and the “real” Senators had free passes to the baseball Senators games.    Once in a blue moon we’d get those tickets.   
 

Mine first baseball game was in 1966 in Memorial Stadium.  I saw Jim Palmer pitch against (I believe) the Chicago White Sox.  My Dad bought me a pennant with a team photo on it and I was an Orioles fan for life. Boog Powell, Frank Robinson, Andy Etchebarren, and of course, Brooks Robinson were on that team.  

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22 minutes ago, atomic said:

As for BRob I suspect this will be the only year he is on the ballot. 

Oh, almost certainly.    I’d be somewhat surprised if he got any votes.    Some players who received no votes last year included Derek Lowe (34.4 rWAR), Freddie Garcia (34.2) and Kevin Youkilis (32.6).    BRob is right in their neighborhood (30.4).    Some others who didn’t make the 5% threshold to stay on the ballot included Lance Berkman (52.1), Roy Oswalt (50.1), Miguel Tejada (47.3) and Placido Polanco (41.5).    

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7 hours ago, Redskins Rick said:

 

For the life of me, I dont get the clowns that voted him so many GG. His career dWAR was like -8.3.

 

The same reason Raffy Palmeiro won a gold glove the year he was a DH and played a handful of games at 1B. Good hitters for their position often get credit for being a good fielder. Jeter also had some highlight reel plays like the throw to homeplate against the A's in the playoffs that gave him a reputation for being a good fielder when it wasn't deserved. 

And advanced fielding metrics didn't become widely excepted until later in Jeter's career. The same reason why Cal didn't get GG's earlier in his career when he deserved to.  

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1 hour ago, atomic said:

I don’t like Jeter and think he is overrated but you can vote for 10 players so I see no reason he isn’t a unanimous choice.  I would like to see Bonds and Clemens get in this year.  
 

As for BRob I suspect this will be the only year he is on the ballot. 

Agreed, Jeter is a no brainer first ballot HOF even though he should have spent his career playing another position. 

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2 hours ago, Frobby said:

Yeah, I had a few of those Bat Day bats.    Can you imagine any team doing that today?

I remember going to Seat Cushion Day one time.   The game got way out of hand and it was a very sloppy game.   Some guy flung his seat cushion onto the field and then there was a barrage of seat cushions flying around.    Wouldn’t want to see something similar on Bat Day.   

Google ten-cent beer night… That was quite a game.

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