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20 minutes ago, 7Mo said:

Might be a while. Only the Braves have announced so far. 

Elias had said he wouldn’t take it right to the deadline, but it’s no surprise if he does, given the possibility of last minute transactions that alter the plan.  
 

In response to the OP, I don’t necessarily see removing a guy from the 40 man, or not adding him, as meaning that player has been “dumped.”    This is partly a game of knowing who’s likely to be claimed and who isn’t, for a variety of reasons that relate to more than just talent.    I can pretty much guarantee that some player we don’t protect will end up playing a significant amount for the Orioles this year.     

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53 minutes ago, Philip said:

It’s kind of an odd scene: waiting to see which guys get dumped, and who among us was correct.

Like reading “The Lottery” again.

We aren't the ones getting cut and we have plenty of guys who if we cut them won't make any difference.  It really doesn't matter much to me who gets cut.  I think they should err on the side of protecting prospects but anyway I don't see anything to be on edge over. 

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24 minutes ago, atomic said:

We aren't the ones getting cut and we have plenty of guys who if we cut them won't make any difference.  It really doesn't matter much to me who gets cut.  I think they should err on the side of protecting prospects but anyway I don't see anything to be on edge over. 

It doesn’t really matter to me either, I’m not completely emotionally invested in any of the guys who might be at risk, the lottery comment is an expression of empathy for the players themselves, and because that short story actually did come to mind. 

However, everybody who follows the team has a sense of expectations, and waiting to see what happens is waiting to see if those expectations were correct or not, and there is a certain sense of satisfaction in being correct.

I don’t know who you think is going to be sent packing, and I accept that you don’t care, but I would be surprised if you didn’t have an opinion at all.

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9 minutes ago, Philip said:

It doesn’t really matter to me either, I’m not completely emotionally invested in any of the guys who might be at risk, the lottery comment is an expression of empathy for the players themselves, and because that short story actually did come to mind. 

However, everybody who follows the team has a sense of expectations, and waiting to see what happens is waiting to see if those expectations were correct or not, and there is a certain sense of satisfaction in being correct.

I don’t know who you think is going to be sent packing, and I accept that you don’t care, but I would be surprised if you didn’t have an opinion at all.

In the Lottery you die. In this you either end up with another team or back with the Orioles on a minor league deal.  

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1 hour ago, atomic said:

In the Lottery you die. In this you either end up with another team or back with the Orioles on a minor league deal.  

It’s fiction. Nobody dies

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Well nobody got dumped at all, and we still have one spot remaining on the 40-man, so Hess, et al can rejoice...for now. April long time away...

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1 minute ago, Philip said:

Well nobody got dumped at all, and we still have one spot remaining on the 40-man, so Hess, et al can rejoice...for now. April long time away...

There will be 40-man casualties yet to be sure. 

 

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So today is just the deadline to add players to be protected from the rule 5 right?  We could theoretically have our 40 man roster at 37 come draft time and pick up to 3 guys if we wanted?

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50 minutes ago, interloper said:

There will be 40-man casualties yet to be sure. 

 

Absolutely, continuing the lottery metaphor, there were certainly be other drawings between now and April

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