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9 minutes ago, Scalious said:

So the league did speak and agreed he was worth 10M?  Marlins would have been really high on WW priority(if they claimed) and are not in a win it now mode.

Goes by league first so they’d be 16th or 17th.

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2 minutes ago, ChuckS said:

Depends on the two 18 year old Dominicans.  College seniors taken after the 10th round have a very low chance of ever seeing the Majors. Low floor and low ceiling here. 

I always feel that a left handed college pitcher has a puncher's chance to make a ML bullpen for a season or two.

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Just now, Can_of_corn said:

I always feel that a left handed college pitcher has a puncher's chance to make a ML bullpen for a season or two.

Probably the best we can hope for. 

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O’s and Elias’s mistake was that Villar never should have made it past the trade deadline this past season. They didn’t like the potential return and gambled on trading him this offseason, it didn’t pay off.  I have no insider information so its possible the return was weaker than what we got but I highly doubt it.

I like Elias and what he’s doing but he will make mistakes, Villar would have probably been handled better by a more experienced GM.

With all of that said, all I care about is that Elias works to improve the organization, and I believe he will.

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Here's a Marlins draft story with a lot of specific bonus details, except not on Easton Lucas.

I feel like around the 14th round of the draft, that's where you have to look at signing bonus information more than draft round to assess what the club thinks of the player.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mlb/miami-marlins/article232548167.html

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One thing is for sure, there's going to be a lot of help within the margins this year for contending teams looking for quality everyday players to supplement their major league roster. 

Too bad the market wasn't looking like this between 2013 and 2016 when we had to settle for Travis Snider types. 

Pitching is king.  

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So Phillies cut a 3 war 2b and we got a young lower upside lefty for a 4 war 2b?

Market was quiet.

I am floored that it was Miami that went for villar.

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13 minutes ago, Ripken said:

Dumped Villar for nothing.  Alrighty.  I hope they aren't expecting to see me at Camden Yards this year.  

They don’t and didn’t see you or anyone last year.

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Lucas, the return in the deal, was a 14th-round pick for the Marlins out of Pepperdine in the 2019 MLB draft. He pitched 34⅔ innings over two short-season levels, primarily as a starting pitcher, and struck out 41 batters with a 1.10 WHIP and a 3.63 ERA between the Gulf Coast League Marlins and Short-A Batavia.

Lucas will join a crowded group of contenders to break camp with the Orioles’ Low-A affiliate in Delmarva.

 

After agreeing to a contract for 2020 with left-handed reliever Richard Bleier earlier Monday, the Orioles tended contracts to their five remaining arbitration-eligible players at the 8 p.m. deadline — outfielder Trey Mancini, right-hander Dylan Bundy, relievers Mychal Givens and Miguel Castro, and infielder Hanser Alberto.

Per the Meoli

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-orioles-trade-villar-20191203-5h2f4lqrnjgkjhygc5fjxisrty-story.html

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1 minute ago, backwardsk said:

SF was in a similar situation with Pillar and got nothing for him.

Yeah ... But Pillar's OBP the last 2 years was in the .280s

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4 minutes ago, jerios55 said:

So Phillies cut a 3 war 2b and we got a young lower upside lefty for a 4 war 2b?

Market was quiet.

I am floored that it was Miami that went for villar.

rWAR?  fWAR he was 1.7

 

10 minutes ago, Enjoy Terror said:

Goes by league first so they’d be 16th or 17th.

Awarding Waiver Claims

PROCEDURE FOR AWARDING OF WAIVER CLAIMS (TYPE OF WAIVERS):

If a player is claimed by only one club, that club is awarded the claim. If more than one club makes a claim, the club with the lowest winning percentage (regardless of league) either from the previous season (beginning on the day after the conclusion of the MLB regular season through the 30th day of the MLB regular season) or on the day the player clears waivers (beginning on the 31st day of the MLB regular season through the last day of the MLB regular season) is awarded the claim. If two clubs with the same winning percentage make a claim, the club in the player's own league is awarded the claim. If two clubs from the same league make a claim and they are tied in the standings, the club with the lowest winning percentage from the previous season is awarded the claim. If the clubs are still tied, standings from two years back (or three years back, four years back, etc) are used to break the tie.

PROCEDURE FOR AWARDING OF WAIVER CLAIMS (TIME OF THE YEAR):

1. During the off-season and up through the first 30 days of he MLB regular season, the previous season's MLB standings are used to determine waiver claim priority. 

2. Beginning on the 31st day of the MLB regular season through the conclusion of the MLB regular season, the MLB standings as of the date the player clears waivers are used to determine waiver claim priority, with the previous season's MLB standings only used to break ties.

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Lucas on the baseball cube - I am guessing that 1-inning sophomore season followed by a redshirt sophomore year is a TJ surgery.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/profile.asp?ID=201257

His K/BB did spike as he got back to a full-time starting role in 2019 (looks like he also started regularly as a 19-year old freshman in 2016).

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