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When the Astros trashcan beating scandal broke, I took the absolute silence from other teams (not players, teams) as an admission of guilt that they were doing illegal things, too.  

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1 hour ago, Moose Milligan said:

When the Astros trashcan beating scandal broke, I took the absolute silence from other teams (not players, teams) as an admission of guilt that they were doing illegal things, too.  

Me too. There's no way the other teams are all innocent.

The fallout of all this will be interesting. 

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1 hour ago, Moose Milligan said:

When the Astros trashcan beating scandal broke, I took the absolute silence from other teams (not players, teams) as an admission of guilt that they were doing illegal things, too.  

like I told my daughter when I caught her sneaking caramel popcorn before dinner...you’re only in trouble if you get caught.

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Just now, oriole said:

like I told my daughter when I caught her sneaking caramel popcorn before dinner...you’re only in trouble if you get caught.

As you stole the caramel popcorn from her and agreed to keep it a secret.

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Sadly, the bitter truth is that if you don’t get caught you didn’t do it. And if you DO get caught and you’re Bill Belichick you didn’t do it.

however the Houston/Sox guys got caught and must be punished.

What did Spock say?

” The condemned has his choice: death by phaser, death by hanging, death by firing squad…”

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5 hours ago, mdbdotcom said:

They should each have to give their top two pitchers to the Orioles while continuing to be responsible for their contracts.

I was thinking also throw in their top hitting prospects as well. 

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8 hours ago, mdbdotcom said:

They should each have to give their top two pitchers to the Orioles while continuing to be responsible for their contracts.

I would be content for them to take Chris Davis.

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15 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

When the Astros trashcan beating scandal broke, I took the absolute silence from other teams (not players, teams) as an admission of guilt that they were doing illegal things, too.  

Yeah, there could be quite the game of finger pointing that could occur. Especially given how man people involved are with other orgs. They’ll get some punishment but not a post season ban. 

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12 hours ago, Philip said:

Sadly, the bitter truth is that if you don’t get caught you didn’t do it. And if you DO get caught and you’re Bill Belichick you didn’t do it.

however the Houston/Sox guys got caught and must be punished.

What did Spock say?

” The condemned has his choice: death by phaser, death by hanging, death by firing squad…”

Or worse, an infinity of listening to @Philip 's attempts at someone else's humour?  (or mine perhaps?)  I joke, since I did laugh uproariously at the above!  😂

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The punishments better be more than just suspensions for the GMs / coaches. Heavy fines...forfeiting of draft picks...etc. MLB needs to send a message that the risk doesn't outweigh the reward when it comes to cheating. Same with the NFL and the Patriots for that matter. 

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News is saying that Alex Cora has been implicated in Astros cheating during 2017 and could possibly be punished for that... which leads my mind directly to Mike Elias.

It would be just the Orioles luck to have a former Astros executive, turned Orioles savior, go down in a heap of flames over something like this.

Anyone else let their mind slip to the possibility that Elias is also wrapped up in this?

 

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11 minutes ago, Todd-O said:

News is saying that Alex Cora has been implicated in Astros cheating during 2017 and could possibly be punished for that... which leads my mind directly to Mike Elias.

It would be just the Orioles luck to have a former Astros executive, turned Orioles savior, go down in a heap of flames over something like this.

Anyone else let their mind slip to the possibility that Elias is also wrapped up in this?

 

Of course.  That's why I'm hoping they just penalize the orgs that did it and not the individuals. They should lose picks for as many years as they "cheated".  

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