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What do you think of the Astros’ punishment?  

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39 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Roch seems annoyed that these questions were asked.  

 

 

I think it's refreshing that the first question was not only asked, but followed up on.  I would prefer that reporters (whether their credentials meet Roch's standard or not) err on the side of too tough rather than too soft.  I'm not a fan of "gotcha" journalism, but the press has no obligation to respect MLB's instructions to teams about ongoing matters and that's the way it should be.  It's also perfectly reasonable to try and get Elias on the record about this issue even though it looks like he had no involvement.

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1 minute ago, 24fps said:

I think it's refreshing that the first question was not only asked, but followed up on.  I would prefer that reporters (whether their credentials meet Roch's standard or not) err on the side of too tough rather than too soft.  I'm not a fan of "gotcha" journalism, but the press has no obligation to respect MLB's instructions to teams about ongoing matters and that's the way it should be.  It's also perfectly reasonable to try and get Elias on the record about this issue even though it looks like he had no involvement.

Agreed.    It’s annoying when nobody asks the tough questions.   

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2 hours ago, weams said:

 

Just a reminder, this doesn't mean that the scheme wasn't being used for the other 7100 pitches.  Remember, when employing the scheme, no bang was used for a fastball.  Therefore, it is reasonable to suppose that the scheme was in place for a considerable portion of the 7100 "no-bang" pitches.

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So the high tech part of the front office set it up.Everyone knew.

Intern in the Houston Astros organization showed general manager Jeff Luhnow a PowerPoint presentation that featured the latest creation by the team’s high-tech front office: an Excel-based application programmed with an algorithm that could decode the opposing catchers’ signs. It was called “Codebreaker.”

I wonder if any reporter will ask Sig about his involvement in Codebreaket? 

 

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2 hours ago, Going Underground said:

So the high tech part of the front office set it up.Everyone knew.

Intern in the Houston Astros organization showed general manager Jeff Luhnow a PowerPoint presentation that featured the latest creation by the team’s high-tech front office: an Excel-based application programmed with an algorithm that could decode the opposing catchers’ signs. It was called “Codebreaker.”

I wonder if any reporter will ask Sig about his involvement in Codebreaket? 

 

OMG the Astros are literally going with the "blame the intern" defense. 

Report: Intern introduced Astros to 'Codebreaker' sign-stealing program

The former intern, Derek Vigoa, currently works as the Astros' senior manager of team operations. Vigoa told investigators that he assumed Luhnow knew the program would be used in live games.

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5 hours ago, weams said:

 

I can’t believe Luhnow didn’t get a lifetime suspension.  Interesting to note that most teams started changing signs a dozen times a game as their reputation became known.  But bad teams didn’t make an effort.  

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1 hour ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

OMG the Astros are literally going with the "blame the intern" defense. 

Report: Intern introduced Astros to 'Codebreaker' sign-stealing program

The former intern, Derek Vigoa, currently works as the Astros' senior manager of team operations. Vigoa told investigators that he assumed Luhnow knew the program would be used in live games.

I don't think they are blaming the intern ,but he is quoted in the article.The analytics department put together the scheme 

The scheme is said to have been hatched before the 2017 season when the Astros analytical department cooked up a program — deemed “Codebreaker,” if you can believe it — that enabled swift sign deduction. As Diamond puts it, this “laid the groundwork” for the eventual trashcan-banging signaling effort that was utilized by Astros players, coaches, and video room staffers. “Codebreaker” was utilized in 2017 and 2018; it was deployed both in home and road contests.

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5 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

I don't think they are blaming the intern ,but he is quoted in the article.The analytics department put together the scheme 

The scheme is said to have been hatched before the 2017 season when the Astros analytical department cooked up a program — deemed “Codebreaker,” if you can believe it — that enabled swift sign deduction. As Diamond puts it, this “laid the groundwork” for the eventual trashcan-banging signaling effort that was utilized by Astros players, coaches, and video room staffers. “Codebreaker” was utilized in 2017 and 2018; it was deployed both in home and road contests.

Not sure why no one in the analytics department did not get some type of punishment if they cooked up the scheme..

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6 hours ago, Going Underground said:

Not sure why no one in the analytics department did not get some type of punishment if they cooked up the scheme..

Because MLB is worried about making this look good.

You suspend the analytics department you have to suspend the players.

Easier to just suspend the guys in charge.

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7 hours ago, Going Underground said:

Not sure why no one in the analytics department did not get some type of punishment if they cooked up the scheme..

It does seem like this could rub off on Sig, even if Elias isn’t in the line of fire.

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