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We have a drove/string/stud/team of horses coming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Only noun I could search/find. A gaggle of geese, pride of lions...

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On 2/12/2020 at 1:25 PM, Chuck A said:

That's a damn nice post you made there, impressive.  I remember road tripping to Hagerstown (when the Suns were AA team) to see Mussina pitch before he made it up to the big leagues.  He was special.  Sad that all of those prospects since have all fizzled but we shall see what is to come from this latest batch.  Spring brings hope eternal! 

 

God I loved watching Moose pitch! A frickin' surgeon on the mound.

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5 hours ago, Frobby said:

Well, we know he did get 5/$30 mm going into the 1999 season.   I’d guess that would be 5/$75 mm today.    Unfortunately Erickson was quite unproductive after that.    The O’s definitely have had very bad luck with big-dollar contracts for pitchers, other than Mussina’s last contract with us, which was ridiculously good.    

Kris Benson.

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4 minutes ago, scOtt said:

We have a drove/string/stud/team of horses coming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Only noun I could search/find. A gaggle of geese, pride of lions...

herd?

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On 2/12/2020 at 5:39 PM, Frobby said:

It’s not like KC had a bunch of ace starters, either.   In 2014 or 2015.   

But they compensated with a killer bullpen that could pitch back-to-back games.

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On 2/12/2020 at 12:18 PM, Frobby said:

1990-2009 Debuts – most of these pitchers are retired now, and those who are active (rWAR marked with an *) have pretty much defined their careers by now.

 

60+ WAR – 9 pitchers.    These are your Hall of Famers, or near misses.   They include Pedro Martinez (83.9 rWAR), Mike Mussina (82.9), Zack Greinke (71.7*), Justin Verlander (70.9*), Clayton Kershaw (68.0*), Roy Halladay (64.3), C.C. Sabathia (63.0), Max Scherzer (60.3*) and Andy Pettitte (60.2).

will make it.

One of the strongest horses of that period debuted much earlier, in 1984: Clemens (138.7).

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14 hours ago, LA2 said:

Kris Benson.

He was traded for Jorge Julio and John Maine.  Neither of them were all that good, but philosophically it was a terrible idea for a bad team to trade a young starting prospect and a reliever for a random 30-year-old making $8M a year.  Maine was a cheap, serviceable starter for about three years after the deal.  Benson was done after one meh year.

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1 hour ago, DrungoHazewood said:

He was traded for Jorge Julio and John Maine.  Neither of them were all that good, but philosophically it was a terrible idea for a bad team to trade a young starting prospect and a reliever for a random 30-year-old making $8M a year.  Maine was a cheap, serviceable starter for about three years after the deal.  Benson was done after one meh year.

Fortunately, it was only for two years of big money (for that team and that time) to Benson. We clearly gave up too early on Maine (sounds familiar). Returning to the OP, he was almost a horse for the Mets in 2007: 15-10, 191 innings in 32 starts, 3.91 ERA.

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I am thinking 185 IP and 32 starts for John Means this year.   The way he is built he could soon be a 200 IP guy in the future.   Kind of a horse from an endurance stand point.

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1 hour ago, wildcard said:

I am thinking 185 IP and 32 starts for John Means this year.   The way he is built he could soon be a 200 IP guy in the future.   Kind of a horse from an endurance stand point.

His career highs are 27 and 160.2.  We still figure out if he's a witch by dunking him in the lake, we just dunk them a bit more carefully than in the past.  Let's hope he's a witch.

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