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10 minutes ago, atomic said:

Any trainer?  I don't see any of the trainers at the gyms I have gone to looking like Davis.  If it were so easy than the trainers would all be jacked up.  Most of them have less muscle than me.  Let's us not make stuff up and act like it is easy.  I know people that are gym rats and don't build any additional muscle size. 

Yes, any trainer.  If he is putting in two workouts a day of heavy lifting, every day, a pound a week is achievable.  

Being a gym rat has nothing to do with muscle size.  It also has to do with genetics, that's why teams looks for projectable players and whether they can add size or not.  Billy Hamilton is one who could spend days in the weight room and not be size of chris davis.  He can still put on muscle mass, but his body buildup is different.  

I genetically have tree trunk thighs, I, from experience, cannot lift legs for months, but give me one month in the gym of leg work my legs are built as heck and I'm squatting 3-400 pounds.  I'm not making stuff up, while not a certified trainer, I have played on Coast Guard rugby team that placed 2nd in all Armed forces tournament, so I have worked with trainers, physical therapists, and those in the profession.

As to the protein, I get piss tested being a service member and there is a list of banned substances just as in baseball and I steer away from the products that have crap in them anyways cause its generally garbage, as there are hardly any FDA regulations on these products and the claims they make aren't always true.   

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1 minute ago, Enjoy Terror said:

Wouldn't it be kind of a stretch to see a guy, clearly in much better physical shape than we last saw him, to say that he put 25 pounds of anything other than muscle? Like, he's not fatter. 

We should be questioning whether he's 25 pounds heavier, and not whether it's muscle or fat.

The point I've been trying to make is that if he put on 25 pounds all of it isn't going to be muscle.  If you want to suggest that he put on 25 pounds and his body fat stayed consistent I'm fine with that. 

It is more accurate to just say he gained 25 pounds, which is what he appears to be doing.

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22 hours ago, wildbillhiccup said:

You don't put on 25 lbs in 4. 1/2 months naturally...

It's not hard at all to put *BACK* on 25 lbs in 4-1/2 months. Especially for an experienced lifter with a trainer and nothing else to do all winter.

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1 minute ago, beervendor said:

It's not hard at all to put *BACK* on 25 lbs in 4-1/2 months. Especially for an experienced lifter with a trainer and nothing else to do all winter.

Goodness know he wasn't working on his swing or going to Fanfest.

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Let's hope his bout with the Flu is short lived. I want to see him perform with this added muscle. Can only hope it will make a difference.

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https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/how-much-muscle-can-you-gain/

https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/how-much-muscle-can-you-gain.html

https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/how-gain-muscle-just-week

https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a19544064/pound-of-size/

http://thehealthyexec.com/much-muscle-can-gain-6-weeks/

Just the top results for how much muscle can you gain in a week, but yeah....I'm probably making it up cause I know nothing.

AVERAGE man can gain .25-.5 lbs in a week

Factors:

1. Steroids- not saying he's not using

2. Experience Level - He's always been a bigger guy and was touted as being a gym rat/weightlifter by teammates

3. Muscle memory/regrowth - Easy to regain i.e. looks like 2017 Chris Davis

4.  Genetics - Saw him in the minors before he was Crush, always been a big dude.  Family probably is too

5. Age - Works against him but just 1 of 6 factors

6. Workout and diet - rich guy, can afford a 24/7 trainer and personal chef.  

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1 hour ago, jarman86 said:

https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/how-much-muscle-can-you-gain/

https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/how-much-muscle-can-you-gain.html

https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/how-gain-muscle-just-week

https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a19544064/pound-of-size/

http://thehealthyexec.com/much-muscle-can-gain-6-weeks/

Just the top results for how much muscle can you gain in a week, but yeah....I'm probably making it up cause I know nothing.

AVERAGE man can gain .25-.5 lbs in a week

Factors:

1. Steroids- not saying he's not using

2. Experience Level - He's always been a bigger guy and was touted as being a gym rat/weightlifter by teammates

3. Muscle memory/regrowth - Easy to regain i.e. looks like 2017 Chris Davis

4.  Genetics - Saw him in the minors before he was Crush, always been a big dude.  Family probably is too

5. Age - Works against him but just 1 of 6 factors

6. Workout and diet - rich guy, can afford a 24/7 trainer and personal chef.  

The boby building magazine is actually against everything you are saying.  

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Also as a 50 something year old the first article is wrong.  I can gain muscle a lot quicker at my current age than when I was 16.  

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25 minutes ago, atomic said:

The boby building magazine is actually against everything you are saying.  

"However, even if we are dedicated (some may call it obsessed) and diligent about our nutrition, with proper training and recuperation practices, we still would not be able to add more than one pound of muscle in a week. That's right, only one pound per week—and this is assuming you've had a darn good week both inside and outside the gym!"

"Now that I've put a damper on your expectations you can step back and take a closer look at your trainingnutritional practices and recuperation tactics. There's no need to beat yourself up because you've only been able to gain a pound a week for the last 6 weeks. If anything, assuming your body fat levels have been kept at bay, you're probably on the right track."

That's what I've been saying, so I'm not sure I understand how it goes against what I've been saying.  His article states anything over a pound a week is almost unattainable or incredibly difficult.  And I don't think his audience for his article is addressed to the high performing athlete in professional sports who can train all day, every day.  

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26 minutes ago, atomic said:

Also as a 50 something year old the first article is wrong.  I can gain muscle a lot quicker at my current age than when I was 16.  

For someone who appears to have minimal knowledge on this subject and provides no reason to back this up in their response, please do oblige me and the sporting world at large.  

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2 hours ago, jarman86 said:

https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/how-much-muscle-can-you-gain/

https://www.bodybuilding.com/content/how-much-muscle-can-you-gain.html

https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/how-gain-muscle-just-week

https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a19544064/pound-of-size/

http://thehealthyexec.com/much-muscle-can-gain-6-weeks/

Just the top results for how much muscle can you gain in a week, but yeah....I'm probably making it up cause I know nothing.

AVERAGE man can gain .25-.5 lbs in a week

Factors:

1. Steroids- not saying he's not using

2. Experience Level - He's always been a bigger guy and was touted as being a gym rat/weightlifter by teammates

3. Muscle memory/regrowth - Easy to regain i.e. looks like 2017 Chris Davis

4.  Genetics - Saw him in the minors before he was Crush, always been a big dude.  Family probably is too

5. Age - Works against him but just 1 of 6 factors

6. Workout and diet - rich guy, can afford a 24/7 trainer and personal chef.  

Lots of truth bombs in this post.  

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3 hours ago, jarman86 said:

25 lbs of muscle over 5 months (Oct-Feb) is roughly a pound a week, which any trainer can tell you is doable.  He has all the resources.  Many athletes have done this.  Better eating, working out, from my experience its not that difficult.  

Resources are one thing...work ethic and discipline are another. 

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31 minutes ago, jarman86 said:

"However, even if we are dedicated (some may call it obsessed) and diligent about our nutrition, with proper training and recuperation practices, we still would not be able to add more than one pound of muscle in a week. That's right, only one pound per week—and this is assuming you've had a darn good week both inside and outside the gym!"

"Now that I've put a damper on your expectations you can step back and take a closer look at your trainingnutritional practices and recuperation tactics. There's no need to beat yourself up because you've only been able to gain a pound a week for the last 6 weeks. If anything, assuming your body fat levels have been kept at bay, you're probably on the right track."

That's what I've been saying, so I'm not sure I understand how it goes against what I've been saying.  His article states anything over a pound a week is almost unattainable or incredibly difficult.  And I don't think his audience for his article is addressed to the high performing athlete in professional sports who can train all day, every day.  

You know there is something different about gaining one pound a week for a couple weeks and 25 pounds in 25 weeks. I will give you a challenge to gain 25 pounds in the next 25 weeks of pure muscle.  Let’s see you do it.

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31 minutes ago, jarman86 said:

For someone who appears to have minimal knowledge on this subject and provides no reason to back this up in their response, please do oblige me and the sporting world at large.  

Look I see plenty of guys who go the gym and even guys that use trainers.  What you are saying doesn’t ring true.  Show me scientific studies not some journalism major just spouting off with no basis on fact.  If it were so easy for athletes to get jacked in an off season like Chris than more guys would be doing it.  

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24 minutes ago, atomic said:

Look I see plenty of guys who go the gym and even guys that use trainers.  What you are saying doesn’t ring true.  Show me scientific studies not some journalism major just spouting off with no basis on fact.  If it were so easy for athletes to get jacked in an off season like Chris than more guys would be doing it.  

I have presented you with 5 articles, that present you with studies, info and facts.  They state that what I am saying is true.  You provide what you see in the gym.  I'm assuming you don't go to the performance centers for athletes, but places where people with real actual jobs and limited resources go.  

Every year I read about football players putting on 15-25 lbs of muscle.  Aside from your ignorance and lack of knowledge, there is nothing to be gained.  You are obviously standing your ground no matter what.  

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