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5 hours ago, Frobby said:

The main thing I did like about Hunter was how excited he’d get when the O’s came through in a dramatic moment.    Yeah he’d often get too enthusiastic over plays that were unimportant, but when the plays actually were important, his enthusiasm was fun to listen to.   

I will admit that I really liked Tom Marr as a play by play guy.   I know that will get laughed at.   He was not particularly competent and committed a lot of malapropisms.   But he had a genuine enthusiasm for the Orioles and would get as excited as a fan at the appropriate times.   And you could almost hear the disappointment in his voice when the ot her team did something good (which, considering he was on from 1979 until the mid 80s, wasn't that often).

I know he was not nearly as polished as Thompson or Miller, but I still liked him doing play by play.   I used to say "He's an idiot, but he's OUR idiot".

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5 minutes ago, SteveA said:

No schedule but over the past couple days, if you ready every Melewski/Kubatko/MLB.com column and listen to what Garceau was quoted as saying on his 105.7 talkshow, it seems to have come out that Garceau will be doing TV play by play for 52 games (he mentioned that exact #) and will also be doing a lot of Orioles pre-and post-game stuff on MASN.   So maybe he will be replacing Tom Davis and working with Demper some of the time?

And also it was noted that Brown would do a little bit of TV pbp as well.   And Arnold will be doing some radio pbp.

Each of those bits of info came from a different source.

So we know a little more about the various roles than we did two days ago, but I imagine there are things we will just have to wait and see on.

I'll take the under on "Gary162" also.

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1 hour ago, Moose Milligan said:

Sorta, but I think you're still leaping to conclusions and presenting a strawman.  

Again, I didn't say there's no place for women in the broadcast booth.  I didn't say I wouldn't watch games that she's broadcasting.  I didn't say that women shouldn't be afforded opportunities in sports media.  I think you'd like to think that I feel that way when I really don't.  I mean, if Hunter was calling all 162 games with Bordick on TV, I'd still watch.  Who's doing the PBP and color commentary is ultimately doesn't matter if I'm going to watch the game.  If it did, yeah, it'd be problematic.  Frobby was right earlier, it's not going to change the way I watch and interact with the team.

So if all I'm doing here is grumbling about a personal preference but not changing how I interact with the team, not changing how I'm consuming the games and begrudgingly keeping an open mind on who's calling the game...what are we really arguing about here?  Do I have to think she's great just because she's a woman broadcaster when I've never heard her call a game before?  Dude, if she's great I'll be the first to say it. 

Fair enough. All I ask is that you give her a fair shake instead of assuming you won't like her announcing because she's a woman.

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10 minutes ago, SteveA said:

No schedule but over the past couple days, if you ready every Melewski/Kubatko/MLB.com column and listen to what Garceau was quoted as saying on his 105.7 talkshow, it seems to have come out that Garceau will be doing TV play by play for 52 games (he mentioned that exact #) and will also be doing a lot of Orioles pre-and post-game stuff on MASN.   So maybe he will be replacing Tom Davis and working with Demper some of the time?

And also it was noted that Brown would do a little bit of TV pbp as well.   And Arnold will be doing some radio pbp.

Each of those bits of info came from a different source.

So we know a little more about the various roles than we did two days ago, but I imagine there are things we will just have to wait and see on.

Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but according to Dan Connolly's article today, Geoff Arnold will be doing about 150 games this year on the radio. So it sounds like he'll be the main radio guy, sometimes joined by another PBP person (like how it used to be with Angel and Manfra), and sometimes joined by an analyst (like how it was last year with Brown and Olson/McDonald/Bordick).

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Arnold is expected to broadcast roughly 150 games this year on the Orioles Radio Network. Sometimes he’ll be part of a play-by-play tandem with Kevin Brown, who joined the club last year, or with Melanie Newman, who will be in her first year as an Orioles’ broadcaster.

Other times, the broadcasts will feature Arnold and a color analyst, such as former Orioles Ben McDonald, Mike Bordick, Brian Roberts and Gregg Olson, among others.

 

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I think the Orioles have missed a great opportunity in not promoting @pohladam.  I look forward to listening to the new voices. 

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1 minute ago, PaulFolk said:

Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but according to Dan Connolly's article today, Geoff Arnold will be doing about 150 games this year on the radio. So it sounds like he'll be the main radio guy, sometimes joined by another PBP person (like how it used to be with Angel and Manfra), and sometimes joined by an analyst (like how it was last year with Brown and Olson/McDonald/Bordick).

 

Oops, hadn't gotten to that yet.   I don't log onto the Athletic or just about any password sites from here at work, other than my web-mail, so I won't see that until tonight.

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2 hours ago, SteveA said:

Oops, hadn't gotten to that yet.   I don't log onto the Athletic or just about any password sites from here at work, other than my web-mail, so I won't see that until tonight.

I am glad when folks put those tidbits up for us. I usually rep. 

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18 hours ago, PaulFolk said:

Fair enough. All I ask is that you give her a fair shake instead of assuming you won't like her announcing because she's a woman.

I listened to some of her clips...she sounds awful...as an announcer...not as a woman.

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On 2/19/2020 at 1:23 PM, waroriole said:

Is Palmer healthy now? I remember he had some issues last year. 

Jim just had major back surgery...but he's going to be ready for opening day. He's a warrior. The last of the great Orioles from the great teams still bleeding Orange and Black,and I for one am relieved he's back for as long as he can go.He's still one of the best baseball analysts alive.

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So it Iooks like play by play 

TV - 1) Thorne

        2) Garcaeu 

        3) Brown 

        4) Arnold 

analysts 

TV - 1) Palmer

         2-4) Bordick, McDONALD and  Roberts 

   play by play 

 Radio  1)Arnold 

             2) Brown 

             3) Newman 

analysts - radio 

       1-3) Bordick, McDONALD,         

               Roberts 

          4) Olson 

          5) Dave Johnson 

 

Curious how they handle radio play by play with who gets what innings. The Orioles have always had the lead broadcaster do innings 1,2,5,8,9. 

MASN Host looks like 

     1) Long

     2) Garcaeu 

Analyst 

     Dempsey - limited games 

    Perhaps some of Tv/radio analysts will do this role even more???  

  Fill in/other roles 

     Davis,  Hunter also Melewski

 Reporters - online and TV, radio 

    Roch, Melewski 

Digital 

Mancano 

 

I wonder if Orioles could use someone like Newman on MASN not as a full time sideline reporter but as additional in game reporter if needed.  

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It seems like an awful lot of on air talent.  

Do other teams have this many PBP/color analysts?  I get that Thorne can't do all of the games on TV cause he's got national responsibilites for other sports, but sheesh, 4 different PBP people for tv?  4 analysts for tv alone?

The Nationals always, no matter what, seem to have Boring Bob Carpenter and FP Santangelo (the absolute worst) doing their games.  I've never heard/seen anyone else that I can recall.

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1 minute ago, Moose Milligan said:

It seems like an awful lot of on air talent.  

Do other teams have this many PBP/color analysts?  I get that Thorne can't do all of the games on TV cause he's got national responsibilites for other sports, but sheesh, 4 different PBP people for tv?  4 analysts for tv alone?

The Nationals always, no matter what, seem to have Boring Bob Carpenter and FP Santangelo (the absolute worst) doing their games.  I've never heard/seen anyone else that I can recall.

I think Thorne and especially Palmer have been cutting down on their number of broadcasts in recent years, so they need a few backups.

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6 minutes ago, PaulFolk said:

I think Thorne and especially Palmer have been cutting down on their number of broadcasts in recent years, so they need a few backups.

It's understandable, but...man, at this rate the broadcasters could field their own team.  And probably give the real Orioles a run for their money.

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9 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

It seems like an awful lot of on air talent.  

Do other teams have this many PBP/color analysts?  I get that Thorne can't do all of the games on TV cause he's got national responsibilites for other sports, but sheesh, 4 different PBP people for tv?  4 analysts for tv alone?

The Nationals always, no matter what, seem to have Boring Bob Carpenter and FP Santangelo (the absolute worst) doing their games.  I've never heard/seen anyone else that I can recall.

It does seem like overkill, but I'll take this group (even Bordick) over listening to FP Santangelo for 162 games. 

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Tom Davis elaborated in what he’ll be doing today on Wall to Wall Baseball.    He’s going to be doing in-game updates on scores of other games.    Sounds like he’s not going to be hosting the pre-game or post-game shows at all.    Wall to Wall Baseball (which isn’t controlled by the Orioles anyway) will continue.   Davis said he doesn’t know what Jim Hunter will be doing.   

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