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It amazes me that people that were so angry when I suggested that you shouldn't feed your kids hot dogs and sodas are now so worried about ccvid. Heart Disease deaths in this country are 650k a year. Strokes kill 140k a year in the US and Diabetes 85k. And 620k from Diabetes.     The same thing that makes you at risk from dying from covid is the same thing that puts you at risk from dying from Heart Disease, Diabetes and stroke.  Yet I have yet to hear anyone else say they have given up processed food, meats, and exercising and eating more fruits and vegetables more since Covid started.  

 

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On 7/7/2020 at 6:31 AM, Redskins Rick said:

I think its pretty clear based on the numbers coming out of the states that reopened their states and made the mask optional, that was the wrong decision as those states are respiking.

Maryland numbers are looking good in comparison, all heading down.

 

Then explain Wisconsin. 

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38 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

Then explain Wisconsin. 

In what regard?

Have they reopened early like Florida and other states?

Are they seeing a respike in numbers going up?

States like Florida and NC, which make the mask optional, are seeing a respike.

Md mask is mandatory, the numbers are looking optimistically good.

 

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1 hour ago, Redskins Rick said:

In what regard?

Have they reopened early like Florida and other states?

Are they seeing a respike in numbers going up?

States like Florida and NC, which make the mask optional, are seeing a respike.

Md mask is mandatory, the numbers are looking optimistically good.

 

They have been wide open since mid May. No spike. 

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1 hour ago, eddie83 said:

Then explain Wisconsin. 

Although Wisconsin is not nearly in as bad as shape as many southern states, they’ve had 77% more cases these past two weeks than the previous two weeks 6/11-6/25.  Deaths are down there.  But as we know deaths trail the cases.  For the country, the 7 day moving average is starting to go back up after it fell for most of June and the beginning of July.  (Primarily driven by five or six states).  Hopefully the increased cases in Wisconsin are mostly of the asymptomatic variety and deaths continue to go down.  I have relatives there that live on both sides of the state.  The further you get from Madison, Milwaukee, and Chicago, the access to hospital care gets a little more dicey.

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1 minute ago, backwardsk said:

Although Wisconsin is not nearly in as bad as shape as many southern states, they’ve had 77% more cases these past two weeks than the previous two weeks 6/11-6/25.  Deaths are down there.  But as we know deaths trail the cases.  For the country, the 7 day moving average is starting to go back up after it fell for most of June and the beginning of July.  (Primarily driven by five or six states).  Hopefully the increased cases in Wisconsin are mostly of the asymptomatic variety and deaths continue to go down.  I have relatives there that live on both sides of the state.  The further you get from Madison, Milwaukee, and Chicago, the access to hospital care gets a little more dicey.

How many more tests have been done? Some places don’t even show all the tests, only positive ones. Deaths don’t trail forever. Younger people testing postive.

 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I have never been more frustrated in my life.  

There is no context in the majority of reporting. None. It’s click bait nonsense. 

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14 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

How many more tests have been done? Some places don’t even show all the tests, only positive ones. Deaths don’t trail forever. Younger people testing postive.

 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I have never been more frustrated in my life.  

There is no context in the majority of reporting. None. It’s click bait nonsense. 

I would believe there has been more testing in Wisconsin over the past month than months prior.  They are catching more cases that way, sure. Doesn’t mean there isn’t an increase in cases.  Again, Wisconsin isn’t as bad off as many other states right now, but to compare it to its neighbor Michigan, they’ve had 23% more cases over the past two weeks than them even though Michigan had 40k+ more cases going into that period.

I try to stay away from a lot of the commentary around this and focus on the reported numbers and look at trends that way.

As far as young people driving the increased cases, that makes a lot of sense when you look at expected behavior.  But when I read that a quarter of hospitalizations in Arizona are people 44 and under, that is concerning.

I agree with you, this is extremely frustrating.

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20 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

I would believe there has been more testing in Wisconsin over the past month than months prior.  They are catching more cases that way, sure. Doesn’t mean there isn’t an increase in cases.  Again, Wisconsin isn’t as bad off as many other states right now, but to compare it to its neighbor Michigan, they’ve had 23% more cases over the past two weeks than them even though Michigan had 40k+ more cases going into that period.

I try to stay away from a lot of the commentary around this and focus on the reported numbers and look at trends that way.

As far as young people driving the increased cases, that makes a lot of sense when you look at expected behavior.  But when I read that a quarter of hospitalizations in Arizona are people 44 and under, that is concerning.

I agree with you, this is extremely frustrating.

Maybe I’m wrong and obviously Florida is not on the Mexico border but I find it hard to believe that it is a coincidence with Cal, Tex and Arizona all being border states. This thing has a seasonality to it. Mexico and Brazil were hit later on.  The border counties in some of these states were hit hard lately.

Texas has fewer deaths than Maryland and had 23/24M more population. Texas never had a curve. That type of context is missing all the time. I read an article the other day that Houston hospitals were around 95% capacity this time last year. That type of context is missing from many of the stories. It’s all about fearmongering.

Here is one article about Florida. https://alachuachronicle.com/covid-test-positivity-is-not-a-meaningful-statistic-because-not-all-negatives-are-reported/

Not all of the tests were reported. I heard this about North Carolina and Georgia awhile ago.  

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Texas has less total deaths at the moment than Maryland.  But MD took an early hit.  Texas has had 60% more deaths since June 1.  Do you see TX having less deaths than MD when we look at this a month or six weeks from now?

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1 hour ago, backwardsk said:

Texas has less total deaths at the moment than Maryland.  But MD took an early hit.  Texas has had 60% more deaths since June 1.  Do you see TX having less deaths than MD when we look at this a month or six weeks from now?

I don’t know how it will play out.

Once again, Texas has a population that is 29M. Maryland is at 6M. That can’t be ignored.  

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2 hours ago, backwardsk said:

Texas has less total deaths at the moment than Maryland.  But MD took an early hit.  Texas has had 60% more deaths since June 1.  Do you see TX having less deaths than MD when we look at this a month or six weeks from now?

 

1 hour ago, eddie83 said:

I don’t know how it will play out.

Once again, Texas has a population that is 29M. Maryland is at 6M. That can’t be ignored.  

I’d guess Texas will pass Maryland in COVID deaths within 2 weeks, and maybe 1 week.    As of today it’s 3,228 for Maryland and 2,965 for Texas, but Texas had more deaths yesterday than Maryland has had in the last week, and that trend is likely to continue.   And, I do think the shortage of hospital beds and other things in certain parts of Texas is likely to result in some deaths that might have been avoided.    

No question that Texas deaths per capita is only a fraction of Maryland’s.   I hope and pray they don’t get to Maryland’s level in that respect.  
 

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Maryland seems to be going up again.  Down the beach this week.  Mask rules clearly not being followed in Maryland at all here.Delaware followed very strictly. I see big spikes coming back.  I am not sure why it is so hard to wear a mask.  

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On 7/9/2020 at 10:31 PM, Frobby said:

 

I’d guess Texas will pass Maryland in COVID deaths within 2 weeks, and maybe 1 week.    As of today it’s 3,228 for Maryland and 2,965 for Texas, but Texas had more deaths yesterday than Maryland has had in the last week, and that trend is likely to continue.   

It took 6 days.   As of this morning, Texas 3,362, Maryland 3,334.      Texas will leave Maryland in the dust now.    

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7 hours ago, atomic said:

Maryland seems to be going up again.  Down the beach this week.  Mask rules clearly not being followed in Maryland at all here.Delaware followed very strictly. I see big spikes coming back.  I am not sure why it is so hard to wear a mask.  

Yep, Maryland’s cases have gone up two weeks in a row, and not by a little.    Something like 2400/wk to 2800/wk to 3400/wk.    Hopefully we’re not in for a Florida/Texas/Arizona type spike, but we’re heading in the wrong direction again.   

Couldn’t agree more about the masks.    It’s not super-comfortable, but it’s such a small sacrifice to make when you are around other people.    
 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Yep, Maryland’s cases have gone up two weeks in a row, and not by a little.    Something like 2400/wk to 2800/wk to 3400/wk.    Hopefully we’re not in for a Florida/Texas/Arizona type spike, but we’re heading in the wrong direction again.   

Couldn’t agree more about the masks.    It’s not super-comfortable, but it’s such a small sacrifice to make when you are around other people.    
 

 

 

I had a CT scan yesterday, my sinus cavities are completely blocked.  One nostril is 100% blocked.

If I can wear the mask I don't see why anyone else has an excuse.

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