Jump to content
weams

MLB Pipeline: Austin Martin

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

What I find interesting is the deadline isn't until Aug first.  So negotiations couldn't have been that difficult given Boras' penchant for waiting to sign.

I wonder if he’s in the running for a roster spot?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

So he signed for over 700K less than the Orioles' slot allotment for the number two pick.

So they couldn't have gotten Blitsko or both of the two HS'ers then right?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, bobmc said:

So they couldn't have gotten Blitsko or both of the two HS'ers then right?

They didn't get Bitsko anyway. 

If they had convinced him to sign for the 700K saving and went over the allotment they might have snagged one of them.

It certainly doesn't look like he would have refused to sign for slot.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So, for the umteenth time, either Elias isn't so smart or maybe the Orioles actually like Kjerstad as much or more.  If Martin was higher on their board than Kjerstad and they clearly felt he was the better prospect then I disagree with what they did which leads me to the belief that the Orioles simply didn't evaluate Martin as highly as others have.

  • Upvote 1
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

28 of 29 first round picks have now been signed. Garrett Mitchell (20th overall to the Brewers) is the lone unsigned first-rounder. Of the 28 signed first-rounders, the largest underslot in terms of dollar amount are:

2. Heston Kjerstad: $2.59 million

23. Carson Tucker: $930,000

17. Nick Yorke: $910,000

8. Robert Hassell: $880,000

18. Bryce Jarvis: $830,000

25. Jared Shuster: $540,000

3. Max Meyer: $520,000

The largest underslot by percentage:

2. Heston Kjerstad: 33.25%

23. Carson Tucker: 31.74%

17. Nick Yorke: 25.20%

18. Bryce Jarvis: 23.85%

25. Jared Shuster: 19.71%

14. Justin Foscue: 19.55%

8. Robert Hassell: 16.99%

 

  • Upvote 2
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

So he signed for over 700K less than the Orioles' slot allotment for the number two pick.

 

5 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

They didn't get Bitsko anyway. 

If they had convinced him to sign for the 700K saving and went over the allotment they might have snagged one of them.

It certainly doesn't look like he would have refused to sign for slot.

It's also possible he lost some leverage on his demands when teams let him go to number 5. Still got the 2nd highest SB of the draft. I don't know if it's logical to suggest he would have settled at the same place for the Orioles. And how do you arrive at the bolded when he just signed for well above the slot at which he was selected?

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, BohKnowsBmore said:

 

It's also possible he lost some leverage on his demands when teams let him go to number 5. Still got the 2nd highest SB of the draft. I don't know if it's logical to suggest he would have settled at the same place for the Orioles. And how do you arrive at the bolded when he just signed for well above the slot at which he was selected?

He signed quickly (for a Boras client)and less than what the Jays could have paid.  You think it is reasonable to think he would have sat out with 700K more on the table?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

He signed quickly (for a Boras client)and less than what the Jays could have paid.  You think it is reasonable to think he would have sat out with 700K more on the table?

How much more could the Jays have paid without incurring burdensome penalties?

Their bonus total is $10.2M and their allotment is/was $9.7M

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/draft/2020/toronto-blue-jays/

I just don't see how you're using him signing over the slot at which he was selected, taking the team to it's 105% number in the process, as evidence that he would have signed for slot in Baltimore. If anything it rules out that he would have been an underslot candidate and/or is inconclusive evidence.

  • Upvote 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
37 minutes ago, BohKnowsBmore said:

How much more could the Jays have paid without incurring burdensome penalties?

Their bonus total is $10.2M and their allotment is/was $9.7M

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/draft/2020/toronto-blue-jays/

I just don't see how you're using him signing over the slot at which he was selected, taking the team to it's 105% number in the process, as evidence that he would have signed for slot in Baltimore. If anything it rules out that he would have been an underslot candidate and/or is inconclusive evidence.

Because he agreed to a lesser amount of money instead of going back to school.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

So he signed for over 700K less than the Orioles' slot allotment for the number two pick.

After he fell to the fifth pick and had to wait weeks. 

  • Upvote 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 7/8/2020 at 5:39 PM, RZNJ said:

So, for the umteenth time, either Elias isn't so smart or maybe the Orioles actually like Kjerstad as much or more.  If Martin was higher on their board than Kjerstad and they clearly felt he was the better prospect then I disagree with what they did which leads me to the belief that the Orioles simply didn't evaluate Martin as highly as others have.

Isn't there a third possibility?

Maybe they felt Martin was a little better than Kjerstad but that bei g able to get the overslot guys they got in the 4th and 5th more than compensated for that difference.

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
52 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Isn't there a third possibility?

Maybe they felt Martin was a little better than Kjerstad but that bei g able to get the overslot guys they got in the 4th and 5th more than compensated for that difference.

This is the most likely thing.    Though it’s also possible Elias thought there would be a good overslot candidate available at 30, and it didn’t play out that way.    

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


Orioles Information


Orioles News and Information

Daily Organizational Boxscores
News

Tony's Takes

Orioles Roster Resource

Orioles Prospect Information

2020 Top 30 Prospects List

Prospect Scouting Reports

Statistics

2020 Orioles Stats

2019 Orioles Minor League Stats

Baseball Savant Stats






  • Posts

    • In his morning article Roch is speculating 5/40 with 7 million to his KBO team.    Zero chance this O’s participate. But, I think it would be a bold move for the Orioles. If you subtract the 3.5 that they would’ve paid Iglesias if they kept him the net is really only 4 million per season including the posting. They are likely gonna bring in another experienced short stop and likely pay him 2-3 million.    Spend the saved 3.5 million and divert the 2-3 from the scrap heap guy that they are going to sign. If he hits you can deal him later for a pile and if not he’s a marginal risk at best coming out of your tv money. They have saved the amount to cover his contract over the last few seasons to cover its entirety
    • MLB Pipeline did a Top 10 on their podcast this week, including shreds on I guess NCAA sophomores who like Kjerstad in February/March may have done stuff for a few weeks.  It also acquainted me with the demographics of the basket where 1-5 will be one of them. Pirates 1 - Lawlar the HS shortstop Rangers 2 - Kumar Tigers 3 - McClain, some Madrigal-sized middle infielder from UCLA, maybe/maybe not SS Red Sox 4 - del Castillo, some slugging catcher from "The U" deemed best hitter in draft Orioles 5 - Leiter (I'd be glad with this outcome for polish going towards 2022 usefulness) D'Backs 6 - Jake Hill, the LSU right-hander, non-Vanderbilt best of SEC rest.   Guessing Ben may know him some. Royals 7 - Jud Zabian, Florida OF    <mock now at 6 straight NCAA after the high school SS character who seems impossible to get to 1-5> <hosts say these Top 7 are a clear tier in whatever order they fall> Rockies 8 - Alex Vanellas, Louisville 3B Angels 9 - Marcelo Mayer, high school SS #2 Mets 10 - James Wood, IMG Academy high school OF <nary a high school pitcher in these 10, though with draft pushed back to July, the Nick Bitsko analogs born in 2003 will have some extra time to strut their stuff, in case the next Kerry Wood, Josh Beckett or Dylan Bundy can only Netflix and chill right now>    
    • I would dangle him to anyone whi would take him. I didn't want him back at any cost let alone 1.8M
    • He is so streaky that when he is in his funk he will be worse than the MIF we run out there.
    • https://halohangout.com/2020/07/13/angels-garrett-stallings-summer-camp/ An Angels fansite report when he later got to their 60 this summer cites a curve as the Junior year difference maker. Their source for that this campus story https://247sports.com/college/tennessee/Article/Tennessee-Vols-Baseball-Vols-Garrett-Stallings-selected-in-fifth-round-of-MLB-Draft-132589216/ also has the details he was their 2019 Friday night guy even with Crochet on the team. His Perfect Game blurb from high school times mentioned three-quarters to over the top arm angle, gee whiz. Who knows if he could have had Kevin Smith's 2019 in parallel universe 2020?   SEC trade imports links them, but Smith actually doing it including a little AA success is a big credit in his favor for the moment.
    • He fits the Smith/Kjerstad mold of SEC guys steadily improving (Growth Mindset?), even if some of that is demonstrated in small sample sizes.   Smith did backup his Junior Year rise up draft boards with his great 2019 for the Mets.  I am imagining entering Junior year Stallings was not a 5th or 25th round profile.   He's one more piece for the box of chocolates we'll get to open in the spring.
  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...