Jump to content
wildcard

Where do Kjerstad/Westburg fit on the 2023/24 team

Recommended Posts

Austin Hayes  CF

Diaz  RF

Rutschman C    (S)

Mountcastle 1B

Kjerstad  LF/DH   (L)

Santander LF/DH (S)

Richie Martin SS

Henderson 3B   (L)

Hall/ Westburg/ Greiner 2B

Diaz will arrive  in Baltimore at least a year before Kjerstand.  Diaz can play RF and has above average speed and arm.  He can field.   Diaz will be hard for Kjerstad push out of right field if Diaz reaches his potential.    That moves Kjarstand to left in competition with Santander.  Either can DH.    Kjerstand does help balance the lineup with Rutschman/Kjerstad/Santander/ Henderson able to hit lefty vs right-handed pitching.

Westburg will compete with Richie Martin, Hall, and Greiner for SS/2B.   There is some speed in this lineup with Hayes/Diaz/Martin/Hall/Westburg/Grenier

Note:  I would have taken Lacy over Kjerstad since Elias did not feel Austin Martin was worth the money at #2.

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, CarrRun49 said:

I have little to no belief Cayden Greiner will ever make it to the major leagues.

I would not argue with that but his fielding is reportedly very good and he may end up as a good glove/no hit  infield utility player if his bat does not come around.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, El_Duderino said:

Imagine penciling in Richie Martin as the SS in 2024. 😂

Unimpressive isn't it.

Edited by Cavspider

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 minutes ago, El_Duderino said:

Imagine penciling in Richie Martin as the SS in 2024. 😂

If only there were some nice SS free agents coming up soon 🙏

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 minutes ago, El_Duderino said:

Imagine penciling in Richie Martin as the SS in 2024. 😂

 

I am not as down on Richie as some people are.  He was making the jump from AA to the majors last year and it took him a while to adjust.   But I think he can field the SS position.    I am hoping his hitting comes around.   Being tutored by Iglesias could help him.   He is a work in progress IMO.

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

It's a safe bet that at least half those players will not be on the team, or at least not in that capacity.

Just where do you think the players are coming from?   There is not much to trade and it takes at least two to three years for even a college player to make it through the minors.     Most of these players are young and still developing.   I agree they will not be the players they are today but I hope they progress.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, wildcard said:

Just where do you think the players are coming from?   There is not much to trade and it takes at least two to three years for even a college player to make it through the minors.     Most of these players are young and still developing.   I agree they will not be the players they are today but I hope they progress.

Waiver claims, rule V draft.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Waiver claims, rule V draft.

These are the guys that fill out a team but are probably not the ones the beat these guys out of starting spots.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, wildcard said:

These are the guys that fill out a team but are probably not the ones the beat these guys out of starting spots.

You have Cadyn Grenier listed.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Will either of these guys be Top 100 prospects? Cross that bridge first before even thinking about where they fit on MLB roster!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, wildcard said:

Austin Hayes  CF

Diaz  RF

Rutschman C    (S)

Mountcastle 1B

Kjerstad  LF/DH   (L)

Santander LF/DH

Richie Martin SS

Henderson 3B   (L)

Hall/ Westburg/ Greiner 2B

Diaz will arrive  in Baltimore at least a year before Kjerstand.  Diaz can play RF and has above average speed and arm.  He can field.   Diaz will be hard for Kjerstad push out of right field if Diaz reaches his potential.    That moves Kjarstand to left in competition with Santander.  Either can DH.    Kjerstand does help balance the lineup with Rutschman/Kjerstad/Santander/ Henderson able to hit lefty vs right-handed pitching.

Westburg will compete with Richie Martin, Hall, and Greiner for SS/2B.   There is some speed in this lineup with Hayes/Diaz/Martin/Hall/Westburg/Grenier

Note:  I would have taken Lacy over Kjerstad since Elias did not feel Austin Martin was worth the money at #2.

Looks like ME thinks it will be the other way around. 

“It was just a matter of picking out the right one for us,” Elias said. “With Heston, we feel really strongly and confidently that he’s going to play a good right field and be able to stay there. It’s a really strong profile. It’s a classic profile for that position, and I think there was a lot of certainty attached to that.”

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why is everyone so down on Grenier?  I was suprised to see that after one season in the minor leagues in an organization we know can make players make some pretty major adjustments.

Looking at his stats for the first time I see some decent things going on there.  Some power, lots of walks.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


Orioles Information


Orioles News and Information

Daily Organizational Boxscores
News

Tony's Takes

Orioles Roster Resource

Orioles Prospect Information

2018 End of Season Top 30 Prospects List

Prospect Scouting Reports

Statistics

2019 Orioles Stats

2019 Orioles Minor League Stats

Baseball Savant Stats






  • Posts

    • No way this was just about finishing his degree.  They wouldn’t have couched that as personal reasons.  From the quote it seems there was something else and the interviewee was saying at least he got to finish his degree. 
    • I agree..just saying, who the hell knows.  
    • The .377 was a fluke.  But he did also hit .344 in the AFL that Fall, too.   Do I think he’s a potential .300+ hitter as a major leaguer?   Not at all.    But a guy who can play a solid major league CF doesn’t have to hit a ton to be a useful player.    His career MiL line of .264/.350/.387 would do the trick just fine if he could pull that off in the majors.    
    • I don’t think so.    I have a college degree and a law degree.    My wife has a college degree and two masters’ degrees.   All three of my kids have college degrees, from pricey private colleges that we paid for in full.   One of them has a graduate degree as well.    I totally understand the value of a good education (which is different than “intelligence”). But Kjerstad is a guy who chose to enter the draft before he’d finished college and take a pile of money to play professional athletics.    In my mind (and probably by contract), he’s obligated to give his employer priority over completing his degree, which plenty of players do without declining their professional obligations.    Now understand, I don’t think Kjerstad did this.   I believe he was unable to participate for medical reasons and decided to use the time to continue his education, which is great.    But I wouldn’t agree with it if he had simply chosen to blow off Fall Instructs to take classes.      
    • So now the goalpost is if makes an impact on his major league career the next season?  That's quite a jump.  I will say that one year of age when a player is making his MLB debut can hugely impact his future earnings. No one in this thread is suggesting that he shouldn't finish his degree at some point.  Also intelligence and education aren't the same thing.    Of course odds are very good that the speculation of him not being able to attend the camp and instead using his time to work on his degree is correct.
    • Yes, a player COULD benefit from the instruction league, even though its a fact that no one has ever benefited enough to be a starter on the major league level the following year, AND he COULD also be in an auto accident and not be able to play any sports. How much is the Instruction League going to help him then.  The topic of this thread is about the player, but the real discussion is about each Poster's value system . . . intelligence or athletics!
    • You must have seen a different guy than I saw.  He committed 4 errors in 9 games.  3 of those at SS.  From his minor league history I think he might have a chance at 2B but not SS.
  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...