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2020 Round 5 (133): Carter Baumler - RHS- (HS)(Dowling Catholic)

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18 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Yeah. We got him at 133. Tony and others say he's a steal at 133. Ok.  Why? Just because he's considered a tough sign?  If someone had him rated 50 and we got him at 133 that would sound like a steal.  It sounds like a lot of the "experts" had him rated where we picked him.  How is that a steal?

I guess part of his ranking was due to the solid TCU commitment? I don't really know, but Callis seemed kind of stunned when we picked Baumler and referred to it as a steal. 

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interesting draft.  Get the guys signed and I like it.  Nobody should be down on Kjerstad regardless of the other picks.  He's pretty much as highly touted as anyone else...

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9 minutes ago, lovetoaster said:

I guess part of his ranking was due to the solid TCU commitment? I don't really know, but Callis seemed kind of stunned when we picked Baumler and referred to it as a steal. 

Do players get ranked lower if they are likely not to sign?  If so, I didn't know that.  

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11 minutes ago, lovetoaster said:

I guess part of his ranking was due to the solid TCU commitment? I don't really know, but Callis seemed kind of stunned when we picked Baumler and referred to it as a steal. 

He seemed more stunned, IMO, because he thought he wasn't signable. Again, if Callis thinks he's a top 50 guy on talent and potential, I'd love to hear it.  Baumler and Mayo sound like good upside picks for their rounds. I just don't get how they are steals going by consensus rankings.

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4 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Do players get ranked lower if they are likely not to sign?  If so, I didn't know that.  

I don't really know, to be honest with you. 

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1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

He seemed more stunned, IMO, because he thought he wasn't signable. Again, if Callis thinks he's a top 50 guy on talent and potential, I'd love to hear it.  Baumler and Mayo sound like good upside picks for their rounds. I just don't get how they are steals going by consensus rankings.

I was just going by the Callis reaction because he was one of the people that specifically called it a steal. Your point is definitely valid though. 

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33 minutes ago, Frobby said:

More athletic than Greinke, who’s won six Gold Gloves and has an OPS that’s roughly double that of the average pitcher?    I kind of doubt it.    But that’s high praise indeed.  

Greinke was also picked 6th overall out of high school so I would have to say BS on that appraisal.

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I have heard the high school guys were probably ranked a little lower this season because many of the guys didn’t get a high school season to climb up the board.  Some of these guys were 16-17 last season so it was similar to signing an international player with not as much experience as usual.  They were using more projections then results this season. 

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19 minutes ago, atomic said:

Greinke was also picked 6th overall out of high school so I would have to say BS on that appraisal.

Saying that someone is more athletic than another player doesn't necessarily mean they are a better prospect. 

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1 hour ago, RZNJ said:

Ok. I have no problem with these picks but the quetion I have on this kid is this:  Kids get rated on potential,  not signability.  So, if he has so much talent and potential,  who had him as a top 100 pick?  Serious question.

I don't know how they do top lists when it comes to signability, but this kid also missed a lot of time due to mono so he wasn't seen by a ton of teams. 

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1 hour ago, RZNJ said:

Yeah. We got him at 133. Tony and others say he's a steal at 133. Ok.  Why? Just because he's considered a tough sign?  If someone had him rated 50 and we got him at 133 that would sound like a steal.  It sounds like a lot of the "experts" had him rated where we picked him.  How is that a steal?

I don't know about the "experts" but this kid was rated much higher by the Orioles than 133 I can tell you that. With a smooth, athletic delivery that he repeats well. Add in a 92-94 fastball with a high spin rate, a good curveball already, and was a TCU recruit and yes, I think that qualifies as a steal in the 5th round. 

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58 minutes ago, lovetoaster said:

Saying that someone is more athletic than another player doesn't necessarily mean they are a better prospect. 

Saying someone is a more athletic Greinke actually does mean that,  

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2 minutes ago, atomic said:

Saying someone is a more athletic Greinke actually does mean that,  

If you want to seriously think someone comparing a HS kid to a pro ball player means that they're saying they'll be that player or better in time then...

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