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4 minutes ago, milbest77 said:

I will always maintain that announcing the Hardy extension a few days before the 2014 ALCS was a colossal mistake. To me, that was the beginning of the end. 

Maybe...but I think it's whatever transpired around the Blue Jays/Warehouse and the subsequent power plays.

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31 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

They traded for Trumbo the first time.

I will say that I would have been a lot happier with them bringing Markakis back then I was Trumbo or Davis (Or Cruz if that had happened).

I’m as big a Markakis fan as anyone on this board, but I understand why they felt 4/$44 mm was too big a risk for a guy about to have surgery for a herniated disc. As it turns out, Nick recovered well and (per Fangraphs) produced $45.9 mm in value for his $44 mm.     Basically, a break even deal.   I would have liked to have his steady presence in the lineup those four years.    But, hindsight is 20/20.   

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36 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

I’ve always believed the Trumbo signing was heavily influenced by Buck.

I'll maintain that was the case about all of those guys.  The whole I like our guys statement wasn't just a PR slogan for the team in 2014, I completely believe it was what Buck truly believed and wanted.

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51 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

They traded for Trumbo the first time.

When they traded for Trumbo, I thought that meant they were letting Davis go.  Davis/Boras just were demanding too much.  I still think that was probably DD's plan.  I was surprised when Boras got directly with Angelos and we ended up signing Davis, too.  I wasn't really angry about it, as I had no idea Davis would fall off a cliff like he did, but I was surprised.  

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Just now, Number5 said:

When they traded for Trumbo, I thought that meant they were letting Davis go.  Davis/Boras just were demanding too much.  I still think that was probably DD's plan.  I was surprised when Boras got directly with Angelos and we ended up signing Davis, too.  I wasn't really angry about it, as I had no idea Davis would fall off a cliff like he did, but I was surprised.  

I'm sure it was the plan.

Just think of a world in which instead of Davis the O's had an additional first round draft pick that year.

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21 minutes ago, SteveA said:

This series of articles by Britt has been fantastic.

I was kind of annoyed that she was writing about Rick Adair’s serious problems now, but wrote nothing about them at the time they were relevant.     

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26 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I’m as big a Markakis fan as anyone on this board, but I understand why they felt 4/$44 mm was too big a risk for a guy about to have surgery for a herniated disc. As it turns out, Nick recovered well and (per Fangraphs) produced $45.9 mm in value for his $44 mm.     Basically, a break even deal.   I would have liked to have his steady presence in the lineup those four years.    But, hindsight is 20/20.   

Although not as big a fan of Markakis as your were (I thought his defense was hurting the team), I felt the same way. I was not favor of resigning him to a 4yr contract at $11mil/yr. In retrospect, considering the disaster RF has been since, probably was not the right call, but one based on the information at hand I would have made again as well.

Heck, I remember thinking that Travis Snider might outperform Markakis for a fraction of his price. I was certainly wrong about that one.

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4 minutes ago, Number5 said:

When they traded for Trumbo, I thought that meant they were letting Davis go.  Davis/Boras just were demanding too much.  I still think that was probably DD's plan.  I was surprised when Boras got directly with Angelos and we ended up signing Davis, too.  I wasn't really angry about it, as I had no idea Davis would fall off a cliff like he did, but I was surprised.  

I'm pretty sure that was the plan as well. Angelos, at the urging of Showalter from what I heard, directly made that signing without much input from Duquette.

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5 minutes ago, Number5 said:

When they traded for Trumbo, I thought that meant they were letting Davis go.  Davis/Boras just were demanding too much.  I still think that was probably DD's plan.  I was surprised when Boras got directly with Angelos and we ended up signing Davis, too.  I wasn't really angry about it, as I had no idea Davis would fall off a cliff like he did, but I was surprised.  

Just to remind everyone of the timing, the Trumbo trade occurred about a week before the initial 7/$150 mm offer to Davis was reported.    So yeah, it was surprising to see the O’s go all in on Davis like that.     Though certainly we did have room for both in our lineup.   

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3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Just to remind everyone of the timing, the Trumbo trade occurred about a week before the initial 7/$150 mm offer to Davis was reported.    So yeah, it was surprising to see the O’s go all in on Davis like that.     Though certainly we did have room for both in our lineup.   

In the lineup yes, but only one could play first base at any given time.

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1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

Although not as big a fan of Markakis as your were (I thought his defense was hurting the team), I felt the same way. I was not favor of resigning him to a 4yr contract at $11mil/yr. In retrospect, considering the disaster RF has been since, probably was not the right call, but one based on the information at hand I would have made again as well.

Heck, I remember thinking that Travis Snider might outperform Markakis for a fraction of his price. I was certainly wrong about that one.

Duquette had really poor luck with his group of corner OF that year.    To a man, they underperformed their career numbers and the previous season’s numbers.   He pretty much got the worst case scenario.   I honestly felt he got too much blame for how that turned out.    

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