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What if this is the next O's contending team?

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1 hour ago, eddie83 said:

Of course it’s way too soon. Just having a little fun. Like I said in 2 weeks we may be under .500 and headed towards 40 losses. 

You said:  "I can’t believe I am asking this but at what point would we consider them a contender?"  And I'm trying to tell you - It's too soon to ask that question.  If you don't want to hear that answer, don't ask the question.     

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3 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

So...In the words of Lou Brown, maybe we can "hang around for a while and see if we can give 'em all a nice big $#*%burger to eat!"

This does have a Major League flavor - what will the front office come up with next to lose enough to get to Kumar, er, Florida?

Especially with the Marlins head to head at hand, Bleier a deft little opening move.

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3 hours ago, Ruzious said:

You said:  "I can’t believe I am asking this but at what point would we consider them a contender?"  And I'm trying to tell you - It's too soon to ask that question.  If you don't want to hear that answer, don't ask the question.     

Not quite sure what the issue is. 

I said how many games in if they are still playing well can we can look at it as being real. 

Heaven forbid someone try to find a little positive in this world.  

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49 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

Not quite sure what the issue is. 

I said how many games in if they are still playing well can we can look at it as being real. 

Heaven forbid someone try to find a little positive in this world.  

Lol, I think there's a disconnect there.  :S  

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12 hours ago, wildcard said:

Sounds like you are in denial.    Bleier was a   below 2.00 ERA pitcher in the majors for 2016-2018.  Look it up.   He had a lat and shoulder injuries be begin 2019 and was never really healthy.   This season he is back to his  2016-2018 form.

Do you honestly think Bleier was ever as good as, say, 2012-15 Darren O’Day?   I don’t.   I think Buck spotted him well and he had good fortune.    I don’t mean to say he wasn’t a solid pitcher, but I would not judge him on his ERA alone.   Nor am I ready to declare him back to his 2016-18 form based on the three innings he pitched this year.    I stick with what I said before: 5th or 6th best option in a good bullpen.    

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Interesting note in an interview today, Elias said that the Marlins bad been interested in Bleier in the past as well.

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9 hours ago, Frobby said:

Do you honestly think Bleier was ever as good as, say, 2012-15 Darren O’Day?   I don’t.   I think Buck spotted him well and he had good fortune.    I don’t mean to say he wasn’t a solid pitcher, but I would not judge him on his ERA alone.   Nor am I ready to declare him back to his 2016-18 form based on the three innings he pitched this year.    I stick with what I said before: 5th or 6th best option in a good bullpen.    

I never said Bleier was as good as O'Day.  O'Day would come in with runners on base and no one out and not allow a run.  He was excellent.  And O'Day had strikeout stuff.   Bleier pitched to contact.   He could pitch two or three innings and pitch very well but would not come in the situations that O'Day did.  

However Bleier was very consistent when healthy and pitched to just below a 2,00 ERA.   There are not many pitchers that did better than he did during that period.  He would take a lockdown, strikeout pitcher to be better.   

He certainly looks like he is back to his old form at this point.

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53 minutes ago, wildcard said:

He certainly looks like he is back to his old form at this point.

It's 3 innings in 2 games.

Last June he had a stretch where he allowed 1 run in 6.1 innings. One might have said that he certainly looked like he was back to his old form at that point. Then he had a 4.58 ERA the rest of the year. 

Then in August he had a 2 game period with 2.2 innings, no runs, 1 hit, 4 Ks. Back to his old form right? But then he had a 4.60 ERA the rest of the way.

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1 minute ago, makoman said:

It's 3 innings in 2 games.

Last June he had a stretch where he allowed 1 run in 6.1 innings. One might have said that he certainly looked like he was back to his old form at that point. Then he had a 4.58 ERA the rest of the year. 

Then in August he had a 2 game period with 2.2 innings, no runs, 1 hit, 4 Ks. Back to his old form right? But then he had a 4.60 ERA the rest of the way.

Bleier was clearly dealing with injuries last season.  He appears healthy now.  When healthy he has pitched well since joining the O's.

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In my rat's ass of an opinion, it will take between 30 and 35 games to be able to assess whether or not this team is a contender ........ if the Orioles are at least 2 or 3 games over .500 at that point in the season, then I would consider them to be a bona-fide contender, but with an asterisk ........ a contender for this season only, with contender status for 2021 and beyond still to be determined.

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33% through the season. Two weeks ago the consensus was that the 2020 O's were not a contending team.  Not enough talent to contend.  Read what you posted.    Has your opinion changed?

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2 minutes ago, wildcard said:

20% through the season. Two weeks ago the consensus was that the 2020 O's were not a contending team.  Not enough talent to contend.  Read what you posted.    Has your opinion changed?

20 games - 33% through the season.  As of right now they're in the playoffs so, they're contending for something.

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8 minutes ago, 25 Nuggets said:

20 games - 33% through the season.  As of right now they're in the playoffs so, they're contending for something.

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Let's flip the question and look at it from the end: we have a playoff spot to hang onto, with only 40 games left to play.

 

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