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#6 2020 Prospect: DL Hall - LHP

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The description of Hall here reminds me of Arrieta.  Great stuff but can't control it.   Hopefully with all the analytics and advanced coaching he will learn to find control while he is still an Oriole.

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16 minutes ago, wildcard said:

The description of Hall here reminds me of Arrieta.  Great stuff but can't control it.   Hopefully with all the analytics and advanced coaching he will learn to find control while he is still an Oriole.

It’s sort of interesting to compare Arrieta and Hall in the Carolina League.

Arrieta (age 22): 20 games, 113 IP, 2.87 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, 6.4 H/9, 4.1 BB/9, 9.6 K/9.

Hall (age 20): 19 games (17 starts), 80.2 IP,  3.46 ERA, 1.33 WHIP, 5.9 H/9, 6.0 BB/9, 12.6 K/9.

Pretty tough to compare them considering the 2 year age difference, but I’d say Hall has even better stuff than Arrieta but his control problems are significantly worse too.    

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13 minutes ago, Frobby said:

It’s sort of interesting to compare Arrieta and Hall in the Carolina League.

Arrieta (age 22): 20 games, 113 IP, 2.87 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, 6.4 H/9, 4.1 BB/9, 9.6 K/9.

Hall (age 20): 19 games (17 starts), 80.2 IP,  3.46 ERA, 1.33 WHIP, 5.9 H/9, 6.0 BB/9, 12.6 K/9.

Pretty tough to compare them considering the 2 year age difference, but I’d say Hall has even better stuff than Arrieta but his control problems are significantly worse too.    

Ron Guidry didn't figure it out until he was 25.  It's tough to predict the if and when.

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One thing to consider is that Hall was in A+ ball in 2019.  He comes in Alternate Camp and he is facing Ryan Mountcastle and DJ Stewart five times each in simulated games.   Might be a tough to throw strikes in that situation.

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It'll be interesting to see how the deployment patterns move as the decade gets underway.  I feel like even if Hall's flaws persist - the team will find some niche he can contribute in.  

The peak Rutschman teams I hope will play a couple few years where playoff probability all along is high enough you can finetune for October roles.

The early Rutschman teams initial flirtations with contention - playoff berths could tilt on factors like do you just let Hall shove for 2-3 innings a couple times a week and call it good, or lead the AL in walks allowed in 2023 generally pitching badly but acquiring experience.

I think I think I'm rooting for the Orioles to have 8-9 hundred inning guys in a few years.  To finish the 1450ish, you do need a couple pushing 175, but maybe only just a couple.  Anticipating deployment inching this way makes me worry less about a guy like Hall (and clearly he's the org's poster child for this sort of scenario) making it all the way.

If Means, Rodriguez and Baumann (or some Scherzer character to be named later) give one or two 175-types, I'm not sure I want marginal innings 85-140 from Kremer, Hall, Akin, Smith etc. come mid-decade.   Smith's my dark horse new guy placement I'm itching to see here.

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