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I was playing OOTP game where I took over the 1988 Orioles and rebuilt them when I acquired Matt Stairs in a trade. It was then I started to think that if you squint real hard, Greg Cullen has some similarities with longtime bat first Stairs. They are built similarly, hit from the same side, and had some similiar type numbers in the minors though Cullens first two years though Stairs was placed aggressively by the Expos back in the day and was about a level ahead of Cullen.

So I'm by no means saying Cullen in the next Matt Stairs, but I am suggesting Stairs could be his absolute ceiling as a player. 

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16 hours ago, bpilktree said:

If we are going to compare trades I think the Zach Davies for Parra trade was much closer then the Miller trade.  

Not to get off topic, but apparently i will again ;) , the Davies for Parra trade was the first time I significantly hated, and I don't use that word often with baseball, a move that DD made. It still to this day feel that DD had lost so  much influence the previous off season, that this was his hail mary play to try and get a .500 Orioles team into the payoffs. 

I also know the organization failed to evaluate what they had in Davies as I was always higher than everyone I spoke to about him within the organizations. Most felt he was a swingman, middle reliever and I always disagreed and rated him higher. 

After the 2014 season, I had him rated #4 overall in the system and said this:

4. Zach Davies - RHP - Full Profile (Plus Members): He's never going to get a lot of publicity due to his size and lack of premium velocity, but if he's going to pitch in the major leagues in some role. We would not bet against him pitching as a 4th starter for years to come.

MLB Pipeline had Davies ranked 8th overall behind such luminaries as Mike Wright (#16 on my list), Tim Berry (#13), and Josh Hart (Not on my list). 

Not to toot my own horn, but I also had Christian Walker (#7) and Mike Yastrzemski (#9) in my top 10 that year. I struck out with Dariel Alvarez (#5) and Jomar Reyes (#6) though.

Either way, it's always interesting to look back. I was always a big fan of Davies and overlooked his small build because of the stuff he was able to carry into the 7th inning and his ability to use four pitches in all quadrants of the zone.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Not to get off topic, but apparently i will again ;) , the Davies for Parra trade was the first time I significantly hated, and I don't use that word often with baseball, a move that DD made. It still to this day feel that DD had lost so  much influence the previous off season, that this was his hail mary play to try and get a .500 Orioles team into the payoffs. 

I also know the organization failed to evaluate what they had in Davies as I was always higher than everyone I spoke to about him within the organizations. Most felt he was a swingman, middle reliever and I always disagreed and rated him higher. 

After the 2014 season, I had him rated #4 overall in the system and said this:

4. Zach Davies - RHP - Full Profile (Plus Members): He's never going to get a lot of publicity due to his size and lack of premium velocity, but if he's going to pitch in the major leagues in some role. We would not bet against him pitching as a 4th starter for years to come.

MLB Pipeline had Davies ranked 8th overall behind such luminaries as Mike Wright (#16 on my list), Tim Berry (#13), and Josh Hart (Not on my list). 

Not to toot my own horn, but I also had Christian Walker (#7) and Mike Yastrzemski (#9) in my top 10 that year. I struck out with Dariel Alvarez (#5) and Jomar Reyes (#6) though.

Either way, it's always interesting to look back. I was always a big fan of Davies and overlooked his small build because of the stuff he was able to carry into the 7th inning and his ability to use four pitches in all quadrants of the zone.

 

 

The comment that Really stuck in my mind was that that was the first DD move that you really hated, but it certainly wasn’t the only one was it?

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23 minutes ago, Philip said:

The comment that Really stuck in my mind was that that was the first DD move that you really hated, but it certainly wasn’t the only one was it?

I really can't think of others moves that I hated really besides resigning Davis which had nothing to do with him. Probably the other was forfeiting a draft pick to sign Yovani Gallardo but only because it was clear Gallardo was not healthy and there was a reason he was still sitting there. 

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1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

I really can't think of others moves that I hated really besides resigning Davis which had nothing to do with him. Probably the other was forfeiting a draft pick to sign Yovani Gallardo but only because it was clear Gallardo was not healthy and there was a reason he was still sitting there. 

Well you’re more patient than I am

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1 hour ago, Frobby said:

MLB.com now ranks Graffanino as our no. 30 prospect.   

For Tommy Milone I'd say that is a win.  

Seems like health has been an issue.  If he could make a good turn, he could be interesting.

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