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On 11/18/2020 at 6:12 AM, Sports Guy said:

First of all, it would be extremely difficult to get someone worse than the Angelos family.  They have arguably been the worst ownership group in pro sports over the last 20ish years.  (Sterling probably worse but PA is right with him..although PA is a better human being of course).

I'm guessing there's a few million Knicks fans who may quibble.

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14 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

That isn't what I said.  I'll try again with more numbers.

The O's draft pool was $13,894,300.

The O's International pool was $5,899,600.

What I am positing is that ownership told Elias he had a budget of *hypothetically* 17.5 Million out of the total allotment of $19,793,900.

Elias chose to cut 200K from the draft and ~2M from the International pool.

Now I'm obviously making up the International numbers since I haven't seen a total spent.

It is also possible that other spending falls under this umbrella, maybe he's just given a total budget for everything and he has the choice to make decisions on what gets spent where. 

The overall idea is the same, that the budget given to him by ownership does not allow him to spend fully in these areas.  I think it unlikely that Elias would chose to not spend money on the draft or International players. 

If the above is true, and Elias is good enough to manage a draft and get everyone signed while restricting $200,000 he is the best GM in history and the pope should canonize him.

The most obvious answer is that he is spending in a way that is designed to maximize return.  Think of it like it's The Price is Right.  He is simply trying to get the best players and as many of them without exceeding the allotments.  $200k on the draft is a razor thin margin.  And we simply do not know what remains unspent on international players. 

Spending just to spend, is the reason #19 is an unavailable number for new Orioles.  If I thought the O's were intentionally missing the opportunity to add talent, as they have in the past, I would concur with you.  

But I would also concede that if your measuring stick is that pool was restricted if not 100% spent, then your *hypotheticals* work as an explanation.  As would many others.  

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7 hours ago, foxfield said:

If the above is true, and Elias is good enough to manage a draft and get everyone signed while restricting $200,000 he is the best GM in history and the pope should canonize him.

The most obvious answer is that he is spending in a way that is designed to maximize return.  Think of it like it's The Price is Right.  He is simply trying to get the best players and as many of them without exceeding the allotments.  $200k on the draft is a razor thin margin.  And we simply do not know what remains unspent on international players. 

Spending just to spend, is the reason #19 is an unavailable number for new Orioles.  If I thought the O's were intentionally missing the opportunity to add talent, as they have in the past, I would concur with you.  

But I would also concede that if your measuring stick is that pool was restricted if not 100% spent, then your *hypotheticals* work as an explanation.  As would many others.  

It's basic economic principle. How can I get the most utility and value from the money I spend? What is the most effective way of doing that? 

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