Jose Iglesias traded to Angels.

[Can_of_corn]

16 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Wish we would’ve just taken the money we paid Iglesias(2.5 million), and just given it to prospect from the Dominican. We would’ve likely gotten back a player better than a barely top 30 prospect/low ceiling prospect. 

Remember, you can't just throw money at these impoverished 16 year olds.  You have to build a relationship.

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Wish we would’ve just taken the money we paid Iglesias(2.5 million), and just given it to prospect from the Dominican. We would’ve likely gotten back a player better than a barely top 30 prospect/low ceiling prospect. 

We didn’t have that option.  

[jerios55]

1 hour ago, Frobby said:

We didn’t have that option.  

Well, we aren't paying that 3.5 million this year, so maybe we are about too.  At least the more we spend there you can consider it the case.

 

[joelala]

https://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2020/12/iglesias-baltimore-was-special-for-me.html?fbclid=IwAR11KZvra2Wak7K5eaG66_9QAFDNSU0KEjrrXNGfe_VaIp7htEIEfZIyvZA
 

Interview with Jose post-trade. A good reminder that these guys are human, and moreover, an encouraging sign that he says he absolutely loved the atmosphere and culture Hyde et. al have created in the clubhouse. 
 

Best of luck to Jose! Seems like a cool dude. 

[LookinUp]

On 12/5/2020 at 4:42 PM, sportsfan8703 said:

Wish we would’ve just taken the money we paid Iglesias(2.5 million), and just given it to prospect from the Dominican. We would’ve likely gotten back a player better than a barely top 30 prospect/low ceiling prospect. 

I don't believe we have $2.5-$3.5 million left over in the international player pool. In other words, we're already putting that money into those players, which is good.

[orioles22]

This kind of trade makes me wonder if it's time to give up on baseball. Baseball has major problems with such a disparity in payrolls. It's very discouraging that we can't keep a player with a very modest salary in baseball terms.

[oriole]

2 hours ago, orioles22 said:

This kind of trade makes me wonder if it's time to give up on baseball. Baseball has major problems with such a disparity in payrolls. It's very discouraging that we can't keep a player with a very modest salary in baseball terms.

It’s just what happens during a rebuild

[Frobby]

11 hours ago, joelala said:

https://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2020/12/iglesias-baltimore-was-special-for-me.html?fbclid=IwAR11KZvra2Wak7K5eaG66_9QAFDNSU0KEjrrXNGfe_VaIp7htEIEfZIyvZA
 

Interview with Jose post-trade. A good reminder that these guys are human, and moreover, an encouraging sign that he says he absolutely loved the atmosphere and culture Hyde et. al have created in the clubhouse. 
 

Best of luck to Jose! Seems like a cool dude. 

He’s a class act.   I hope he kicks ass for the Angels.  

[Sports Guy]

11 hours ago, joelala said:

https://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2020/12/iglesias-baltimore-was-special-for-me.html?fbclid=IwAR11KZvra2Wak7K5eaG66_9QAFDNSU0KEjrrXNGfe_VaIp7htEIEfZIyvZA
 

Interview with Jose post-trade. A good reminder that these guys are human, and moreover, an encouraging sign that he says he absolutely loved the atmosphere and culture Hyde et. al have created in the clubhouse. 
 

Best of luck to Jose! Seems like a cool dude. 

I hope Hyde gets this team winning soon so they don’t fire him.  I think he has a lot of managerial talent.

[Ruzious]

12 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

I hope Hyde gets this team winning soon so they don’t fire him.  I think he has a lot of managerial talent.

Winning?  After they decided that 3.5 million was too much to keep Iglesias?  Either that, or they were afraid Iglesias was going to help them win too many games.  Or both.  Cue to Dr. McCoy:  "Dammit Jim, I'm a manager; not the world's greatest magician!".   

[Sports Guy]

5 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

Winning?  After they decided that 3.5 million was too much to keep Iglesias?  Either that, or they were afraid Iglesias was going to help them win too many games.  Or both.  Cue to Dr. McCoy:  "Dammit Jim, I'm a manager; not the world's greatest magician!".   

I think they decided that Iglesias isn’t really that good and that they can get a similar player for less money and bring talent into the system.  This trade was fine from a pure baseball perspective.

However, as you eluded to, the idea that money is an issue here and that ownership basically forced this decision is what is sad.

[jerios55]

12 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

I hope Hyde gets this team winning soon so they don’t fire him.  I think he has a lot of managerial talent.

He is in position to try things out and learn with little to no pressure.  It's not a bad way to start your coaching career.  Whether here or elsewhere people will know not to judge him on his record. 

Knowing he hasn't been given much to work with and intended tank, they better be judging him based on implementing "the plan" vs pretty much anything else.

[Sports Guy]

1 minute ago, jerios55 said:

He is in position to try things out and learn with little to no pressure.  It's not a bad way to start your coaching career.  Whether here or elsewhere people will know not to judge him on his record. 

Knowing he hasn't been given much to work with and intended tank, they better be judging him based on implementing "the plan" vs pretty much anything else.

You would hope.  Current ownership is getting everything they need to out of Hyde and Elias.  

[jerios55]

1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

You would hope.  Current ownership is getting everything they need to out of Hyde and Elias.  

Cheap everything, while maintaining a good attitude? 

Honestly, Hyde maintaining the positive attitude alone is a magnificent accomplishment. 

[Frobby]

12 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

I think they decided that Iglesias isn’t really that good and that they can get a similar player for less money and bring talent into the system.  This trade was fine from a pure baseball perspective.

However, as you eluded to, the idea that money is an issue here and that ownership basically forced this decision is what is sad.

I think they decided adding to their stable of minor league pitchers was more important than having Iglesias.   Simple as that.   Elias is bringing in a ton of prospects and hoping that some develop well.   The more there are, the better the chances.