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Was the no hitter worth it? (Means leaves game with shoulder fatigue)

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FYI, when Means had this injury in 2019 he was placed on the injured list retroactive to June 17th. Means second half ERA was 4.85 versus a 2.50 ERA for the first half. Seeing how Means holds up this season is something to keep an eye on. 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=meansjo01&year=2019&t=p

https://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2019/06/updating-john-means-trey-mancini-and-dwight-smith-jr.html

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It seems the Orioles got fortunate yesterday with the injury news about Trey Mancin and it is similar today with left-handed starter John Means.

The Orioles top starting pitcher for the year - he’s 6-4 with a 2.67 ERA - is certain he will return when his 10-day injured list stint is up on an off-day, the day before the O’s host Cleveland June 28. He was placed on the IL today, retroactive to June 17, with a left shoulder strain.

 

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19 hours ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

FYI, when Means had this injury in 2019 he was placed on the injured list retroactive to June 17th. Means second half ERA was 4.85 versus a 2.50 ERA for the first half. Seeing how Means holds up this season is something to keep an eye on. 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=meansjo01&year=2019&t=p

https://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2019/06/updating-john-means-trey-mancini-and-dwight-smith-jr.html

 

If Means comes back from this injury and pitches to a 4.85 ERA he will still have the lowest ERA on the staff.  

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26 minutes ago, BRobinsonfan said:

If Means comes back from this injury and pitches to a 4.85 ERA he will still have the lowest ERA on the staff.  

I like the positive thinking here.

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The Tigers put Spencer Turnbull on the DL with arm fatigue as well.  He also had a no hitter earlier on in season and had record highs in pitches and innings during his no hitter.  Means only went 12 pitches more the his season high while Turnbull went 19 pitches more.  Now I don’t think those are the only reason or even main reason but anytime you increase past something you never did it does have a different effect.

 

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4 minutes ago, bpilktree said:

The Tigers put Spencer Turnbull on the DL with arm fatigue as well.  He also had a no hitter earlier on in season and had record highs in pitches and innings during his no hitter.  Means only went 12 pitches more the his season high while Turnbull went 19 pitches more.  Now I don’t think those are the only reason or even main reason but anytime you increase past something you never did it does have a different effect.

 

Corey Kluber tossed a no hitter on May 19 and he is now on the 60 day IL with a shoulder injury.

Madison Bumgarner had a 7 inning no hitter, and he is now on the IL with a sore shoulder.

Wade Miley, Carlos, Rodon, and Joe Musgrove tossed no hitters this year, and have appeared to be unscathed.

So 7 no hitters this year (I count Bumgarner regardless of what MLB says), and 4 of the pitchers are currently on the IL, 3 with shoulder issues.

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10 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Corey Kluber tossed a no hitter on May 19 and he is now on the 60 day IL with a shoulder injury.

Madison Bumgarner had a 7 inning no hitter, and he is now on the IL with a sore shoulder.

Wade Miley, Carlos, Rodon, and Joe Musgrove tossed no hitters this year, and have appeared to be unscathed.

So 7 no hitters this year (I count Bumgarner regardless of what MLB says), and 4 of the pitchers are currently on the IL, 3 with shoulder issues.

Kluber gets injured every year. Can’t really make this argument for a 7 inning game either. Pitchers go 7 innings all the effing time. 

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I think a lot has to do with when these have happened too as the pitchers for the most part have not been stretched out completely.  120  pitches when you are usually going 90-100 early in season is different when you go 120 but are getting 110 or so later on is different.

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