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The 2023 AL East: Supporting Casts

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While I am excited to watch the best Orioles break in next year, the main disappointment of this season is that 2022 looks like it has become another throw away year.   For me, 2022 was always the only in-between year in the process, and its the bad outcome.   Even if Mike Elias is say godparent or godparent to be to Carlos Correa's first born, not happening.

Entering this offseason, stripping away the Top 5 guys each club currently controls for 2023, here are a couple Supporting Cast top dogs everybody has.   Can our unit, how would Buck say it, defend themselves out there:

BAL - DL Hall and Colton Cowser

BOS - Tanner Houck and Jarren Duran

NYY - Luis Severino and DJ LeMahieu

TB - Tyler Glasnow and Austin Meadows

TOR - Lourdes Gurriel and Orelvis Martinez

As the Yankees I believe just played Brett Gardner in CF in the wildcard game (haha), and Gleyber Torres is perhaps orphaned for defensive reasons, how much more than Torres would they need to give us for Cedric Mullins?    Jasson Dominguez can't help Gerrit Cole's inner child anytime soon.

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28 minutes ago, oriole said:

I’m not totally against trading Mullins if the next 2-3 years are tanking anyways but not to the Yankees. 

There’s no way we’re tanking for the next 2-3 years.   Whether we improve enough to be true contenders in that time frame is an open question, though.   

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With Rutschman and Rodriguez in the pipeline for 2022 and then the prospects behind them coming up in the following years, there is no way the tanking is going to continue unless the goal is to drive off the remaining Orioles fans. 

The question as Frobby stated is how much is the team going to improve over the next few seasons. Without adding veteran talent outside the organization, I can't see the Orioles being serious playoff contenders unless the prospects over perform. 

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2 hours ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

With Rutschman and Rodriguez in the pipeline for 2022 and then the prospects behind them coming up in the following years, there is no way the tanking is going to continue unless the goal is to drive off the remaining Orioles fans. 

The question as Frobby stated is how much is the team going to improve over the next few seasons. Without adding veteran talent outside the organization, I can't see the Orioles being serious playoff contenders unless the prospects over perform. 

I don't think that was ever the plan. The plan has been to not spend more than necessary on the Major League product until that product was ready to take the step forward. I'm an advocate to get a piece or two this offseason (namely pitching) with the idea that 2022 is the start of the turn around. We should still be a sub-.500 club, but more in the 95 loss mold rather than the 110 loss mold. While I would like the shopping to start this offseason, I'm not convinced it will. But I do fully believe it will happen once we have Rutschman, Rodriguez and a few others (Stowers? Hall?) on the club and the team has made the transition. To me, that's next year so I expect we see the payroll increase the offseason of 2022-2023. 

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5 hours ago, Frobby said:

There’s no way we’re tanking for the next 2-3 years.   Whether we improve enough to be true contenders in that time frame is an open question, though.   

Maybe I’m using exaggerated language but all signs to me are pointing to wins and losses not mattering until, at best, 2024. Maybe next year is the last year of the intentional losing era but if we’re going to be setting sights to 2024-2025 for when they’re actually trying to win then that’s why I’m saying trading Mullins makes sense. 

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19 hours ago, oriole said:

Maybe I’m using exaggerated language but all signs to me are pointing to wins and losses not mattering until, at best, 2024. Maybe next year is the last year of the intentional losing era but if we’re going to be setting sights to 2024-2025 for when they’re actually trying to win then that’s why I’m saying trading Mullins makes sense. 

The only way this is true is if you believe the young talent that is largely the reason the system is rated highly isn’t going to be good.

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5 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

The only way this is true is if you believe the young talent that is largely the reason the system is rated highly isn’t going to be good.

I think they’re going to be good which is why I think it’s insane that next year isn’t the first year we try to put a winning ball club together. Maybe it’s just me but bringing players into a major league team designed to lose is not going to help create a culture of winning. The prospects that will make a difference will be here very soon and I think they should come up to a team where the front office shows they are also putting in the effort to actually win. That doesn’t mean spend on the biggest free agents but my understanding is we are going to be going after similar types to Franco and Galvis this offseason and I think that’s stupid. I think now is the time is invest in being competitive and if they don’t, it seems like they should just kick the can down the road a bit and just cash in on the value a guy like Mullins brings right now. 

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19 minutes ago, oriole said:

I think they’re going to be good which is why I think it’s insane that next year isn’t the first year we try to put a winning ball club together. Maybe it’s just me but bringing players into a major league team designed to lose is not going to help create a culture of winning. The prospects that will make a difference will be here very soon and I think they should come up to a team where the front office shows they are also putting in the effort to actually win. That doesn’t mean spend on the biggest free agents but my understanding is we are going to be going after similar types to Franco and Galvis this offseason and I think that’s stupid. I think now is the time is invest in being competitive and if they don’t, it seems like they should just kick the can down the road a bit and just cash in on the value a guy like Mullins brings right now. 

I don’t disagree but if you believe in the young talent than you can’t believe in the idea that they don’t care about winning games until 2024.  Can’t have it both ways.

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On 10/8/2021 at 3:57 PM, oriole said:

Maybe I’m using exaggerated language but all signs to me are pointing to wins and losses not mattering until, at best, 2024. Maybe next year is the last year of the intentional losing era but if we’re going to be setting sights to 2024-2025 for when they’re actually trying to win then that’s why I’m saying trading Mullins makes sense. 

I can't wait until the O's win the World Series in 2060.  I hope they let me watch from my nursing home bed.

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2 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

World Series will probably be on FS3.  FS1 will be carrying the Mean Tweet Championship.

You should be able to get FS3 on your cranial implant.

I mean, you can get the ocho for goodness sake.

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13 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

I can't wait until the O's win the World Series in 2060.  I hope they let me watch from my nursing home bed.

 

You'll be able to dial up a series win every year on the Holodeck, long before then.

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