Jump to content
sportsfan8703

Any Two Way Player Possibilities?

Recommended Posts

Ohtanhi has really changed the game. Now Verdugo is talking about pitching in relief some games. We saw Givens make the transition from failed SS to basically a pretty wealthy reliever that has pitched in some big spots. Could we have maximized Markakis more in his early years?  Anyone in the system with a big arm that could pitch in relief?  Mayo?  Could Diaz be a platoon OF that could also eat some IP?  
 

I think teams are starting to think outside the box. Who in our system has that is a position player could do this?  Especially guys that pitched in the NCAA part time. 

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The game has aligned itself to the expectation of distinct pitchers and position players for many decades...

...but in reality, athletic prowess could easily overcome this for any player with a decent arm. 

In general.... pitchers don't exclusively pitch because they are not able to do other things.... but because the game expects them to...  so other skills atrophy.

Imagine the power of a roster comprised of fully half of two-way players... It'd be like having a 40 man roster to play every day.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wieters was a closer in college, wasn't he.    Brooks Kieschnick was another two-way guy in college.   I think he tried both at different times in the majors.   Who was the 1:1 guy the Padres drafted as a SS and then was a pretty good reliever years later with the Rangers?

The Reds have the guy drafted as an outfielder/RHP who's basically a reliever now.  Lorentzen.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

Wieters was a closer in college, wasn't he.    Brooks Kieschnick was another two-way guy in college.   I think he tried both at different times in the majors.   Who was the 1:1 guy the Padres drafted as a SS and then was a pretty good reliever years later with the Rangers?

Matt Bush.

 

I will say that switching from one to the other isn't the same as doing both.

Also, Rick Ankiel.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Matt Bush.

 

I will say that switching from one to the other isn't the same as doing both.

Also, Rick Ankiel.

Right.  Just thinking of guys who could do both.   Can't think of any besides Ohtani who were good at both at the same time.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Not to sidetrack this thread but I always knew that Babe Ruth was considered a standout pitcher with a 94-46 record and 2.28 ERA.    What really surprised me was his really low strikeout total of 488 in 1221 innings pitched.   A different era but even with that it seems really low!!!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It seems close to impossible now because there's only one guy doing it.  To all of a sudden have guys trying to play two ways doesn't make sense, they haven't been developed that way. 

That's not to say they can't develop guys like that going forward.  I think in the next 10 years you'll see two way players more often.  I don't think they'll be commonplace, but I don't think Ohtani is going to be the only guy to have done it.  

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, RZNJ said:

Not to sidetrack this thread but I always knew that Babe Ruth was considered a standout pitcher with a 94-46 record and 2.28 ERA.    What really surprised me was his really low strikeout total of 488 in 1221 innings pitched.   A different era but even with that it seems really low!!!!

He was above average in K/9 for his time.  Topped out at 4.7 K/9 in 1916, when 3.7 was league average.  He was 3rd in the league In K’s that year behind Walter Johnson and Elmer Meyers. 

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


Orioles Information


Orioles News and Information

Daily Organizational Boxscores
News

Tony's Takes

Orioles Roster Resource

Orioles Prospect Information

2021 Top 30 Prospects List

Prospect Scouting Reports

Statistics

2021 Orioles Stats

2021 Orioles Minor League Stats

Baseball Savant Stats






  • Posts

    • I'm pretty sure these guys call the Summer Eve's Douche Bowl. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=522H44ddePQ
    • Being the number one destination by a long shot in an area with top 5 amateur talent still matters. Being in an attractive major urban area still matters. Having top notch facilities and fan base still matters. Leaving the ACC hurt the programs standing.  But there's a reason the school has had such sustained stretches of success in the past.  Even under Turgeon the team was generally a top 25ish team. If you get fired for being generally top 25ish, that's because people have higher expectations for the program.  And they should.  Because the school has all the advantages to be a top 20 team annually.   Now, that's not saying this hire will end up well for MD.  They could conceivably get worse.  But that won't be because of the program's potential.
    • I think you're looking at it the wrong way by placing too much emphasis on the current state of the program.  I of course don't think thry are currently a top-25 program.  But Maryland was able to lure away P5 coaches from schools that are on your list for their last 2 coaching hires, including during a time when they were facing NCAA sanctions.  On top of that, they were really close to luring away a coach (Sean Miller) from a program that I had listed as better than us.  That's fact, not theory.  I don't believe for a second that Turgeon's tenure here dropped the desirability of this job down to where we aren't still close to that level, nor do I think that the other schools closed the gap so significantly that we are worse than all of them.   Let's look at it another way.  If Iowa lost its coach and were looking for a coach this offseason, would they beat us out in terms of hires?  Would TAMU?   Would Alabama?  Would USC?  With Iowa and TAMU I feel very strongly thay they wouldn't. Especially since we already poached one coach from TAMU.  Alabama?  Maybe depending on how much a coach values environment over Benjamin's.  USC?  Only for someone who wants to be in LA.  FSU?  Absolutely not.  Auburn?  similar to Alabama IMO but maybe more tilted in favor of Auburn.  Arkansas?  Debatable as well.   Regardless there are enough schools on this list where I think Maryland comes out clearly ahead in this exercise that I feel comfortable putting this HC position as a top-25 job.
    • Well, Westry is out.  Smith hurt his ankle And Young was sick.  It could mean they just want more depth and that none of them are out. The McCrary thing is interesting.  Wonder if they give him carries tomorrow?
    • 2022 MLB Draft - Top 200 Prospects — Prospects Live   I posted this a month ago.  Check out his swing at No. 7.    
    • Apparently Enfield has some local ties…maybe that’s a big help. Odom, the coach at UMBC when they beat UvA figures to be on the list too.
    • Oh man, there should definitely be a Summers Eve Douche Bowl.  That would be amazing!
  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...