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Just now, NCRaven said:

I think we think we know the types of players Elias targets when we really know very little at all.

Are you suggesting that Elias doesn't have a preference for high spin rate guys who throw four seam fastballs?

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Can Tate become like what a Miguel Castro was for us when our bullpen was good?  That was a good “B reliever” that could come keep the game close in the middle innings to give you a chance to come back?  
 

Then again, I don’t think we can really evaluate any of the bullpen until we actually have a rotation. 

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Posted the same article just now and then realized SG had done it already, so I deleted mine.   The whole thing was interesting but especially the discussion of his one-seamer and this part at the end:

“Rapsodo doesn’t pick up my fastball very well. I don’t know if you’re familiar with seam-shifted wake, but my fastball has that and Rapsodo doesn’t pick it up. I need TrackMan to pick up my sinker. Rapsodo will tell me that I’m throwing my sinker at 1:45, or 1:30, but in reality it’s spinning and then, as it’s getting to the plate, changing its axis. From what someone told me, the seams are repeating themselves. I’m not entirely sure about the definitions — if that’s seam-shifted wake — but I know that my fastball has that property.

“I’ve never been a high-spin guy. With the four-seam, at the very best my fastball will probably spin at 2,200 [rpm]. When I went to [the one-seam], I found that it’s spinning anywhere from 1,700 to 2,000. The spin is pretty low.

“To the naked eye… when somebody is seeing it on TV, they just think that it has a lot of run. Which it does; my sinker is running. There isn’t a lot of vertical on my fastball, but it is going down. It’s not something that the viewer is going to to see, but the batter will notice it. When he starts his swing… if I’m throwing it in a desirable location, the batter is going to hit the top of the ball. It’s going down, but it’s very, very late. It’s tough to see that on TV.”

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1 hour ago, NCRaven said:

I think he may.  But he might also value some diversity in the types of pitches thrown by relievers.

I always thought it was good that Britton, O’Day, Brach and Givens brought four very different styles and arm angles to the back end of our bullpen.   

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Tate was in NYYs system for two years (2017-19). He's spent a little over two years in the Orioles' system.

The article doesn't quite say this, but it sure sounds like the NYYs made observations and suggestions that affected Tate's fastball grip and approach, and that since coming to the Orioles he's been experimenting with those things on his own, without direction from the coaching staff. 

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4 minutes ago, spiritof66 said:

Tate was in NYYs system for two years (2017-19). He's spent a little over two years in the Orioles' system.

The article doesn't quite say this, but it sure sounds like the NYYs made observations and suggestions that affected Tate's fastball grip and approach, and that since coming to the Orioles he's been experimenting with those things on his own, without direction from the coaching staff. 

I seriously doubt that.  

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41 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Posted the same article just now and then realized SG had done it already, so I deleted mine.   The whole thing was interesting but especially the discussion of his one-seamer and this part at the end:

 

“Rapsodo doesn’t pick up my fastball very well. I don’t know if you’re familiar with seam-shifted wake, but my fastball has that and Rapsodo doesn’t pick it up. I need TrackMan to pick up my sinker. Rapsodo will tell me that I’m throwing my sinker at 1:45, or 1:30, but in reality it’s spinning and then, as it’s getting to the plate, changing its axis. From what someone told me, the seams are repeating themselves. I’m not entirely sure about the definitions — if that’s seam-shifted wake — but I know that my fastball has that property.

“I’ve never been a high-spin guy. With the four-seam, at the very best my fastball will probably spin at 2,200 [rpm]. When I went to [the one-seam], I found that it’s spinning anywhere from 1,700 to 2,000. The spin is pretty low.

“To the naked eye… when somebody is seeing it on TV, they just think that it has a lot of run. Which it does; my sinker is running. There isn’t a lot of vertical on my fastball, but it is going down. It’s not something that the viewer is going to to see, but the batter will notice it. When he starts his swing… if I’m throwing it in a desirable location, the batter is going to hit the top of the ball. It’s going down, but it’s very, very late. It’s tough to see that on TV.”

Have you ever heard about a chef going into exquisite detail about how he makes his pie, and then the pie tastes terrible?

That’s this interview. Tate isn’t very good and that’s all there is to it. I don’t know whether he can get good, and we are all hoping that he can, but nobody would be happy if he stays as he is.

The question then becomes, can he get better. I am doubtful, but he’s not the ninth-worst pitcher on the roster so he can stay for now.

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