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The Mark Teixeira Watch part II

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Ok, in an attempt to make things easy for people to keep up, I'm locking the original thread and start up a part two.

Here's where we're at:

1) Most media outlets are saying the O's are no longer in the Teixeira sweepstakes.

2) Bigbird's contact agrees and says he's heading to Boston

3) Gammons says it's between the Nationals and Red Sox.

4) Belkast remains confident the Orioles are still in it despite all the evidence to the contrary

5) Generally people believe if the Orioles offered over $20 million that they made a good faith offer, and if Texeira signs elsewhere and the offer did not blow away the Orioles offer, than Tex never really wanted to come back and be a local hero anyway.

6) If Tex signs with the Red Sox, most people will despise him and boo him lustfully when he comes into town. But most agree that they will be overshadowed by the Red Sox fans who take over the Yard anyways.

7) Most people agree this will have major consequences for the Orioles in the PR department if they can't bring Tex back and especially if he goes to the Red Sox or the Nationals.

OK ...and...discuss....

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What I don't understand is ESPN never covered the Rays until they did well, but at least they didn't hate them and put down their team as much. To the Orioles, it's liek they are the only team that ESPN really just does not like/have no respect for. And I think its the latter, and unfortunately I think that until Peter is out of the picture, that isn't going to change.

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What I don't understand is ESPN never covered the Rays until they did well, but at least they didn't hate them and put down their team as much. To the Orioles, it's liek they are the only team that ESPN really just does not like/have no respect for. And I think its the latter, and unfortunately I think that until Peter is out of the picture, that isn't going to change.

ESPN is the Red Lobster of sports news sources.

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Thanks for letting that thread go as long as it did, Tony and fellow mods. I do realize things were getting off topic. Never in my wildest dreams did I think it would get that huge.

Hopefully this thread can provide the conclusion we are all looking for! :clap3:

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Kruk said last night, "If anyone gets Tex, they will be instant contenders......except for the Nationals."

I thought that going a bit far. But it illustrates the value others place on Tex. And why these negotiations are difficult, important, and secretive.

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You guys had me worried for a second. :D

Tony, Greg Pappas, McLovin, ScottieBaseball, etc., you guys rock.

Belkast, you do as well. ;)

Hey, you're beating JTrea in this thread now. ;)

I slept on it. I still don't think anything's going to get done until the middle of next week. I fully anticipate participating in The Mark Teixeira Watch part III. :D

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Kruk said last night, "If anyone gets Tex, they will be instant contenders......except for the Nationals."

I thought that going a bit far. But it illustrates the value others place on Tex. And why these negotiations are difficult, important, and secretive.

I didn't know that the Nationals were in the AL East

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Kruk said last night, "If anyone gets Tex, they will be instant contenders......except for the Nationals."

I thought that going a bit far. But it illustrates the value others place on Tex. And why these negotiations are difficult, important, and secretive.

It's true, we aren't as far away as people think!

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What I don't understand is ESPN never covered the Rays until they did well, but at least they didn't hate them and put down their team as much. To the Orioles, it's liek they are the only team that ESPN really just does not like/have no respect for. And I think its the latter, and unfortunately I think that until Peter is out of the picture, that isn't going to change.

This is such a homer perspective. How much time should they devote to a team that last had a winning season when Bill Clinton was president and the Dow Jones hit 7000 for the first time. Think about this for a minute. What were you doing in 1997?

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Kruk said last night, "If anyone gets Tex, they will be instant contenders......except for the Nationals."

I thought that going a bit far. But it illustrates the value others place on Tex. And why these negotiations are difficult, important, and secretive.

Does Kruk just think we have no shot, or does he think we can be contenders. Also, does he think the Nats are in the AL East?

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Kruk said last night, "If anyone gets Tex, they will be instant contenders......except for the Nationals."

I thought that going a bit far. But it illustrates the value others place on Tex. And why these negotiations are difficult, important, and secretive.

The more I think about it, the more I hope that if he doesn't sign with us, he signs in D.C. Yeah, it'll suck and yeah the PR will be awful... but at least it'll make me feel like he's sticking it to the national media in some way.

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