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The thing is, I don't consider myself liberal or conservative and I roll my eyes at both kinds of people regularly.

I just believe that we should be able to live our lives without fear and when someone tries to take that away, then I've got no mercy for them. Does this mean killing someone who has just stolen from me? No. But it also doesn't mean letting them get away with it, whatever that means.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying either of us are liberal or conservative. Only that the division is age-old.

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What does it say? That police should shoot everyone they pull their weapons on?

I haven't finished this thread yet, so forgive me if someone else has already said this. I've been through law enforcement training at work, and I've carried a firearm while on duty. The very first thing they teach you is that if you are going to unholster something, you had better be prepared to use it. That doesn't mean you have to, but you had better be prepared for it to come to that.

To give you another example, we have pepper spray. Its on a lower level in the use of force continuum, but you don't pull it out just to threaten people with to gain compliance. Law enforcement doesn't work that way, and they don't teach it that way with good reason. You always use the minimum force necessary to gain compliance, and a lot of times that is level 1 (officer presence)...its the reason cops have the uniforms, hats, sunglasses, etc.

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I haven't finished this thread yet, so forgive me if someone else has already said this. I've been through law enforcement training at work, and I've carried a firearm while on duty. The very first thing they teach you is that if you are going to unholster something, you had better be prepared to use it. That doesn't mean you have to, but you had better be prepared for it to come to that.

To give you another example, we have pepper spray. Its on a lower level in the use of force continuum, but you don't pull it out just to threaten people with to gain compliance. Law enforcement doesn't work that way, and they don't teach it that way with good reason. You always use the minimum force necessary to gain compliance, and a lot of times that is level 1 (officer presence)...its the reason cops have the uniforms, hats, sunglasses, etc.

Apology accepted. ;):)

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This is probably as it should be. I don't blame anyone in baltimore for protecting themselves. In such a violent place as this, one has to start with the assumption that your life is in danger.

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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bal-pontolillo0128,0,2608032.story

Pontolillo, of Wall, N.J., was at home in the early morning of Sept. 14 when he heard a noise coming from the garage behind the three-story, five-bedroom house on East University Parkway that he rented with three other students. After canvassing the area with police and school security, Pontolillo grabbed a samurai sword and went out again, where he encountered Rice hiding in the dark.

Prosecutors said Pontolillo ordered Rice not to move, and Rice "came towards Mr. Pontolillo with arms raised," apparently not lunging as police said at the time. "Because he could not determine if there was a weapon in Rice's hands, and fearing for his safety, Pontolillo swung one time as the intruder approached."

Pontolillo struck Rice with the sword, nearly severing his left hand, and Rice bled to death at the scene.

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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bal-pontolillo0128,0,2608032.story

Pontolillo, of Wall, N.J., was at home in the early morning of Sept. 14 when he heard a noise coming from the garage behind the three-story, five-bedroom house on East University Parkway that he rented with three other students. After canvassing the area with police and school security, Pontolillo grabbed a samurai sword and went out again, where he encountered Rice hiding in the dark.

Prosecutors said Pontolillo ordered Rice not to move, and Rice "came towards Mr. Pontolillo with arms raised," apparently not lunging as police said at the time. "Because he could not determine if there was a weapon in Rice's hands, and fearing for his safety, Pontolillo swung one time as the intruder approached."

Pontolillo struck Rice with the sword, nearly severing his left hand, and Rice bled to death at the scene.

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