Jammer7
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Just now, maybenxtyr said:
WTH are you talking about "Journeyman"? He's pretty much been in the O's organization from the beginning, and outside of bouts of wildness he's always had the velo. It was always a matter of getting some type of control down. I remember in Salisbury when he was closing, that little stadium would be rockin. He's no different than any other pitcher... he'll get fixed up, regardless of what this is and he'll be back.
He was with the Marlins first. I don’t know if I would call him a journeyman either. Long time minor leaguer, yes.
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10 hours ago, Pickles said:
It's not going to be for a bit.
Maybe so. They all break. It sucks. So be it, that’s baseball.
Bautista was not the mountain before he got an opportunity. This is an opportunity for someone. We’ll see how it goes.
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10 hours ago, Bemorewins said:
There is no next man anything close to as good as Bautista. Obviously someone will have to close, but there is an extremely low probability that his replacement will be anywhere near as effective.
What are they supposed to do? Cry about it? I mean, every team has injuries. It is exactly next man up, or roll over and show your belly and die.
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1 minute ago, Moose Milligan said:
Webb to close. Followed by Coulombe.
Hope it’s not serious. Not gonna play the prediction game.
I do like Webb. He’s a bulldog. He and Cano can handle it for a bit.
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1 minute ago, eddie83 said:
What I was hoping for at first. Then they speculated knee.
Hyde just said it’s an “arm issue.” Hyde was upset about it and would not comment further.
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It could be many things. Next man up. Who closes? Cano, I guess.
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On 8/24/2023 at 7:16 AM, tntoriole said:
My bad.. my point was the former.. he pitched a number of bad games at his start .. i think it is going to be one of those deals we lose out on but time will tell
That is fair. Huge difference in the stuff and make up, but Rom May end up being a solid back end guy. And I hope he does.
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On 8/24/2023 at 6:48 AM, terpoh said:
Not really related, but reading the post above took me down a few minute rabbit hole of looking up some of our trades and prospects from 2012-2017. I had forgot about Tobias Myers, even though I remember people being upset we traded him so young. He obviously did not workout for Tampa but interestingly - Tampa traded him to Cleveland in 2021 for Junior Caminero who is now rated as the #6 prospect in all of baseball and the #2 SS behind Jackson Holiday. Tampa's ability to target prospects and develop them is pretty remarkable.
Sorry for the tangent.
I had the exact same thought, and you beat me to it.
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On 8/24/2023 at 9:48 AM, waroriole said:
Cool. Let’s don’t even bother with opinions because the Orioles know best. Just like they knew best with Hader and Davies.
It was Duquette, who traded those guys. But hey, rage on, brother.
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On 8/23/2023 at 10:55 PM, tntoriole said:
Yeah so did Grayson
No, he didn’t.
On 8/23/2023 at 10:57 PM, tntoriole said:Yeah yeah .. you did see Flaherty’s last outing?
Yes, I did. Flaherty is not completely healthy, and he is still a better option than Rom for a playoff team. And for many reasons. They’ll back off him to get more miles from him down the stretch. Flaherty has not been healthy since COVID 2020.
I am convinced it was a trade they had to make. They gave up Rom, who is a guy that may end up a back end guy for St. Louis. Rom was never going to get an opportunity in Baltimore. I am happy for him. Prieto too. Showalter is a long long shot. I still think it was a good trade for both teams.
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12 minutes ago, tntoriole said:
Rentals who get hurt.. worst case .. have to do what we would have done anyway except donating Prieto (.339 in 14 games at Memphis) , Rom who threw two starts at Memphis, 11 innings , 1 ER and called up, and Showalter on IL
i have a bad feeling about how this plays out
Rom got shelled when called up. 3.2 IP, 8 hits, 8 runs, 6 ER, 4 BB, 4K against Pittsburgh.
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After reading the transcripts of Flaherty’s statements, I have absolutely no idea what he said. At first, it seemed like a physical thing. Then, it seemed more like he was working through mechanical changes, maybe. IDK.
Watching him pitch in SD, it looked like his shoulder had some discomfort the way he rolled his shoulder joint several times between pitches. He has had shoulder problems before. However, that may just be his normal mannerisms.
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Sorry, but Showalter is not “all that.” Some promise, sure, but not a future TOR or anything. They paid him what, $400,000, I believe. That is not a huge bonus. He was an asset, and he was used to obtain an asset that can better help us in this season. The chances of Showalter even ever being a ML pitcher are not at all good. We are not going to miss him.
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Is there anyone here who has seen him in Bowie? Can anyone tell me if the K’s are more so swinging or looking? The number of K’s are alarming in AA. He’s always had some swing and miss, but ouch. Is there a spray chart of his contact anywhere? He can get pull happy and sell out for the FB.
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It is a long season. All teams have highs and lows, for sure. The playoffs are a different thing. Many of our players are playing meaningful competitive games that they may not have encountered before. The term “playoff atmosphere” has been thrown around in some recent series’. The games are more intense and the small things often matter a bit more. Good teams and talented players make you pay for mistakes. I think we have seen that in San Diego and Seattle, to varying results.
I do wonder about our offense some. I know they are tired and banged up a bit. Brian Kenney’s piece was a little eye-opening to me about the chase rate and some other metrics. We do many things right, absolutely. This is not some indictment of the Orioles, but it should highlight the need to keep grinding and working on the their approaches.
I’d like to see Adley get some days off, not even DH. McCann has been excellent recently. We need Adley to be more fresh for September and October. Hays might need some time as well. He is definitely banged up.
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5 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:
But it’s not. You are saying he’s lost confidence (when he hasn’t). That’s just made up stuff. I’m actually surprised to see you saying it. I expect it from some on here but not you.
He talked about it recently. Yes, he has had some confidence issues..just as every single pro player goes through anytime they are slumping.
He isn’t overwhelmed up here. He’s not driving the ball and the defense has been shaky, although I think it’s been a little better the last week overall.
But none of this was an issue according to any scout, so I’m not worried about it at all. Just needs to work through it.
His body language is glaring. He walks defeated. The fact that he remains “upbeat” or whatever BS Melanie Newman is spewing after her interview with him is not relevant. He is not in a competitive mode right now. He is as much of a certain out right now as Mateo. He knows it.
He is in between the fastball and breaking ball. It isn’t made up, it’s obvious to some. It’s also just a different opinion than yours. And which scouts are you writing about? You’re in contact with them often? Come on now.
SG, I am surprised to see you aggravated by this move. If he had shown signs recently of coming out of the shell he’s in, I could see it. But he is crawling back inside that shell right now. He is not in a controlled aggressive mode in any phase of the game.
I want him to succeed. Elias and Hyde want that too. They would not have promoted him unless they believed in him. Give it some time, he’ll slow things down.
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2 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:
I know. But still.
I didn’t realize Cowser was ya boy.
It just makes the point of how special Adley and Gunnar really are. That transition is hard for most of them. If we weren’t a playoff team, like 2021, I’d be clamoring for CC to stay. This is a different time.
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59 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:
Well, when you just want to throw sh** at the wall and see if it sticks, that’s the type of stuff you say. It doesn’t matter that it’s nonsensical or not true..it’s just something that sounds good.
It is actually hysterical when you tell me how wrong I am about my own opinion of what I see.
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44 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:
I guess so.
I just find the sense of entitlement around here exhausting at times. And by that I mean sometimes some people expect these rookies to come up and dominate right away. Sometimes that happens, sometimes it doesn't....but the freaking out about guys when they don't hit right away is insufferable.
Dude, now you know that isn’t me. Not at all.
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4 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:
I get that, I just don't think he looks that overwhelmed or timid.
I also think he's hit the ball hard, he's just drilled it right at fielders. His patience at the plate is fantastic and I think overall he's pretty good.
He’s been too patient, mostly. He has let the ball travel to a fault. Look at his spray charts, Moose. Almost all of his contact is to the left side, even balls on the inner half of the plate. He is not competing in the upper half of the zone right now either. He got blown away in his recent at bats upstairs, albeit against the Astros.
In the field, he lays back and let’s the ball land on balls he should be more aggressive on. They are not errors in the scorebook, but the pitchers don’t appreciate having to throw more pitches after balls land that should often be caught.
I’m not down on his future, not at all. He is just in-between right now. He has to get comfortable and figure out that he actually belongs. I believe he’ll do that, probably in 2024. His body language right now isn’t good.
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40 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:
I don't know what this means.
I personally don't think Cowser should have been sent down. But I bet they're hoping that Hicks can catch lightning in a bottle again after being activated...similar to how he started here when we picked him up.
Cowser's going to have his day in the sun, possibly in a few weeks again after rosters expand. I believe he was a bit unlucky even though I hate the unlucky argument.
It was a little humor, describing a whipped puppy who puddles when he is scared. It’s over the top, but he does look over whelmed and timid right now.
Cowser has a ways to go to make the adjustments he needs in all phases. The game is moving too fast for him right now. I’m a believer in the guy, just not there for him yet. They need guys who are not easy to pitch to. He is an easy out right now. It is that simple for me. Hicks will run into one now and then against quality pitching.
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34 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:
It’s all a SSS and means very little.
I don’t disagree that he isn’t driving the ball. I also don’t care and don’t feel it’s something he can’t get past.
You are all hanging onto this concept that Hicks provides value. He really doesn’t, not for us. We have guys to fill the role that he can.
Even if you want to still send down Cowser, which I disagree with, you bring up Ortiz or Kjerstad.
Everything this team is doing now has zero to do with winning tonight or tomorrow. It’s about winning in October, thus why Mateo is still here.
Come October, with another 7 weeks full of regular at bats, Cowser makes us a better team than Hicks does.
In the longer term, I agree on Cowser. Absolutely. He just isn’t close to the guy he should eventually be, right now. I do not see progress, if anything there has been a regression.
Hicks is not much better, and he’ll probably get hurt again soon. He will give us a better and longer at bat while he is in there. Hicks swing is actually quite flawed lately, but was a little better and more compact when he first came over. He disengages his back side and gets long, and on both sides too. I’m not much of a fan of Hicks, but credit to the guy for giving us a spark.
I agree it’s about October. Hicks will give us better at bats then too, if he is actually healthy enough. And, I trust him to make plays in the OF much more so.
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45 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:
Hicks xBA/xSlug/xwOBa: 204/309/278
Cowser xBA/xSlug/xwOBa: 205/274/302
Hicks hard hit %: 30.1%
Cowser hard hit %: 42.5%
Statcast has Cowser as the faster runner and higher max exit velo.
Look at Cowser’s spray chart. Tell me he is exit velo data is legitimate. He has hit several hard ground balls to 3B and SS. I know the data you are citing, and I understand it. But you have to interpret that with what your eyes tell you. If Cowser had a tail, it would be tucked between his legs right now and there would be a puddle on the carpet.
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Cowser looked awful. He rarely got the barrel out front and drive anything. He was blown away regularly by mediocre pitchers. His at bats were short and predictable. He hit the barrel to one about 10 days ago and drove it to RCF for a double. Other than that, he hit some balls hard right at the 3B, sure. But he was not driving barely anything. He was very tentative in the box and we need more than that from an OF.
He is not a CF for me, and he looked below average in a corner right now. He was just tentative everywhere. I was very disappointed in how he seemed to be at a loss of confidence. The game is hard. I still think he can be a real good player, but he is far from being able to be a contributing member of a contender right now.
OTOH, Hicks will probably be hurt again soon. I would rather see McKenna come up over Cowser. I do not love Hicks’ game, but no one can deny his contributions for the first 3-4 weeks in Baltimore. He adds another quality at bat and helps lengthen a lineup. To me, he is a mistake hitter, which is a lot better than what Cowser is right now. Some here wrote about how Cowser is struggling like Henderson did. It isn’t even close for me. Henderson was much more intentional and confident with what he was doing. Cowser has lost his confidence for the time being. I’m sure his buds will carry on the Star Wars Lego building without him until he gets back.
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Tyler Wells closer if Bautista is hurt??
in Orioles Talk
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Wells FB has to have great command, or it gets hit really hard. His FB could tick up to 96 or so, but it is still straight. A closer has to be available on back to back nights, and generally often. Wells’ shoulder history makes me cringe in this, just a little.