Pickles

I mean velocity is important. I'm not trying to deny that. I was just wondering if it wasn't anything more.

You're not wrong. But look at their results I posted above. Very, very similar.

I mean, I think E-Rod is a cut above but they're results are pretty similar. E-Rod: 788 IP ERA+ 109 WAR 13.6 Davies: 772 IP ERA+ 111 WAR 10.3

E-Rod's velocity is a little better. Both than Davies and Rom. That's kind of what I was hoping to get Tony to elucidate on. What made E-Rod a top 50 global prospect, already getting top 100 talk at this point in his career, and Rom basically get no play at all, despite very similar results and similar profiles. Is it just the 3 mph difference in their fastballs?

And a left-handed Davies looks an awful lot like Eduardo Rodriguez.

Compare/contrast Drew Rom and Eduardo Rodriguez as prospects.

Doc Brown created Covid 19 with the CCP. He then went back in time and created a vaccine. Biff Tannen stole the vaccine and the Delorean Time Machine and came to the future to give Kjerstad the vaccine and thus win huge amounts of money betting against the Orioles because in this timeline everyone is an Orioles fan because Cal Ripken beat up Kevin Costner causing all the lights to go off at Camden Yards. Or something.

Slow bat.

Earlier than it was created?

Pretty sure he was initially diagnosed last summer and the vaccine wasn't ready until- just totally coincidentally of course- a week after the election. Time frame doesn't seem to add up.

I remeber the circumstances surrounding Wieters call up pretty well. And I do remember personally having a lot of concerns about his potential as a middle of the order bat as early as the next spring, and I'm largely just busting your balls here, but I think if a guy comes up with a 1000 career OPS in the minors, you probably shouldn't write off his ability to be a middle of the order bat based on 3 abs against the reigning Cy Young winner. You may indeed be correct. But it isn't a good process.

I love Hays too, but would him playing 80 consecutive games without getting hurt really change your mind and make you feel like you better hurry up and guarantee this guy a bunch of money?

It's not the kind of slump that is scary- as others pointed out. But good. Let him slump a bit. Adversity is the greatest teacher.

I think you kind of answered your own question.

I know many will disagree, at least in terms of importance, but I am heartened when the MiL clubs are winning.

So, you're claiming in his debut game, which was against Verlander if I remember, you predicted his lack of athleticism would keep him from being the guy people thought he was in the minors?

Lol. Gotta time stamp on that?

Hays just made a great throw from LF to home on a single. The runner scored, but the LA announcers raved about the throw- apparently it came in at 94 mph and accurate; and Hays' arm in general- 4 OF assists this year. The announcer commented something I was thinking while watching the replays: "That is not an arm you see in left field very often."

Well doesn't that beg the question: Superior to Gausman in Baltimore or superior to Gausman in San Francisco?

That's a pretty common thing.

I recall the logic behind Fio was they needed someone who could play CF.

If memory serves, he came up straight from Frederick.

First of all, BS. Plenty of people are making the argument, including you, that the O's should have been more aggressive in looking to win this year. And when shown how signing FAs, or making trades, would have been pretty futile, the conversation then shifts into being more aggressive with promotions. Namely, Adley's. Would he lead to a better product to watch? Undoubtedly. Would it lead to better player development? We don't know that. And claiming you do is false. Is it ethical employment practice? Who are you? Cesar Chavez? The multi-millionaire Adley Rutschman is getting along ok. Framing it as some moral crusade is laughable. The reasons for not promoting Adley have been laid out dozens of times. They are imminently reasonable. The O's handling of Adley is pretty much the norm across the industry. You don't like it? Great. We heard you the first two dozen times.

But By God Man!, if we get him up here this summer we could win 59 games!

I checked the box score in the third. It was 9-0 already. LOL. I honestly think it's easier for me to deal with the rebuild, and accept that you have to play the long game, because I don't watch.