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You know he can't play first?

Yep. It is a very civil disagreement we are having.

I wouldn't say a lot but I do think it will be significant.

I'm expecting changes to minimum compensation, arbitration and free agency.

I'm assuming that proving oneself means playing at a certain level. Schoop was still a below average player in 2015, does that count as having proven himself? I certainly don't think post 2016 Schoop signs that deal.

Would any player that has proven themselves in the majors accept that deal?

The looming CBA fight is making me more willing to accept risk.

I wouldn't of either, I'm just pointing out how little 4M a year is in the grand scheme of things. That's third maybe fourth guy out of the pen money.

I think he's going to be a ~3 win player. I'd be fine with that on a playoff team. Of course one of the underused advantages of signing a player to this type of contract is that if he ends up as even a 2 win guy you have a lot of excessive value if you want to flip him.

In a world where Tillman and Rasmus get 3M a year I don't see where 4M a year for Hays is too much of a gamble.

I get what you are saying but at this level of compensation the player doesn't have to be all that skilled to be worth it. As I said earlier this is pretty much the money Schoop has made over the same period of time.

You have to admit he had a short career in the game.

Are we going with the pressure of the big contract is too much for him or that he missed part of spring training?

Probably jet lag.

Schoop's actual earnings through this time period is a bit over 21M.

I'd have done it for Schoop as well. Of course the actual numbers would be a bit different, a bit lower for Schoop a lot higher for Manny,

Yep. I'd look into it for Mountcastle as well. I would have included McKenna but his ST stats are deplorable! ?

And the reward is high if he turns into a 3+ win player.

This seemingly conflicts with your No vote.

You just wanted to take a shot at Kingery?

I've stated before that I think it would be wise for teams to lock up their young talent before the next CBA.

Yea, when folks compare Turgeon's record to Williams' record I wonder how Turgeon would be doing in the ACC.

Shows and concerts are even worse. Heck we have the Renaissance festival in town and it would cost a family of four 60 bucks to get in the door.

If ownership lets him. Or do you mean three years from now?

I think a fair bit of it is a marketing problem. I think baseball as a whole has been very poor in this regard and have allowed the individual teams to conduct themselves without an overriding plan.