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The looming CBA fight is making me more willing to accept risk.

I wouldn't of either, I'm just pointing out how little 4M a year is in the grand scheme of things. That's third maybe fourth guy out of the pen money.

I think he's going to be a ~3 win player. I'd be fine with that on a playoff team. Of course one of the underused advantages of signing a player to this type of contract is that if he ends up as even a 2 win guy you have a lot of excessive value if you want to flip him.

In a world where Tillman and Rasmus get 3M a year I don't see where 4M a year for Hays is too much of a gamble.

I get what you are saying but at this level of compensation the player doesn't have to be all that skilled to be worth it. As I said earlier this is pretty much the money Schoop has made over the same period of time.

You have to admit he had a short career in the game.

Are we going with the pressure of the big contract is too much for him or that he missed part of spring training?

Probably jet lag.

Schoop's actual earnings through this time period is a bit over 21M.

I'd have done it for Schoop as well. Of course the actual numbers would be a bit different, a bit lower for Schoop a lot higher for Manny,

Yep. I'd look into it for Mountcastle as well. I would have included McKenna but his ST stats are deplorable! ?

And the reward is high if he turns into a 3+ win player.

This seemingly conflicts with your No vote.

You just wanted to take a shot at Kingery?

I've stated before that I think it would be wise for teams to lock up their young talent before the next CBA.

Yea, when folks compare Turgeon's record to Williams' record I wonder how Turgeon would be doing in the ACC.

Shows and concerts are even worse. Heck we have the Renaissance festival in town and it would cost a family of four 60 bucks to get in the door.

If ownership lets him. Or do you mean three years from now?

I think a fair bit of it is a marketing problem. I think baseball as a whole has been very poor in this regard and have allowed the individual teams to conduct themselves without an overriding plan.

Owners wanted a draft last time and they settled for the current slotting system instead. Or did you mean that the Union makes a practice of trading away the rights of non-union members, because yea, they totally do that.

That's easy. They give in on the International draft. That way the players don't actually give up anything, they just screw over some 16 year olds most of whom will never be in the Union.

Wern't you a mod for a while?

And at the end of the day he's still going to be earning six times what the defending AL Cy Young award winner will be making.

And that was without his top velocity.

I've seen the numbers but I don't have them on hand. It is higher but not anything close to many times.