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Best case scenario is the kid's fine and Angelos got scared off by a shadow.

Didn't stop them from giving Cameron Coffey a million. This kid appears to have fewer red flags.

Still needs to pass the physical. I'm not sure who leaked this to Ken but I certainly wouldn't have until the physical was finished. I do expect him to pass the physical.

I'm pretty sure that MASN has had to put aside funds for this eventuality.

You think Matusz was a bigger disappointment than Hobgood?

Norris.

Who knows what is going on inside Tanaka's elbow.

He could have had two more second round and five more first round picks to help his cause. (I'm not counting the loss of the Cruz pick since it turned into a first rounder the next year.)

I'm pretty sure the O's spent ~6M of their pool of 6,846,700. For the record they spent 8.8M in 2009.

Letting another team sign him at reduced cost is a loss. I'll agree it's a win for the player.

I can blame the Orioles for not offering the 40%. I can blame them for not having a fallback plan for the savings.

I don't see how another team getting a player without having to spend a draft pick or use slot money doesn't hurt the Orioles. The O's get nothing out of a fourth round pick and another team gets a player at reduced cost. That hurts the O's. Now it might be a small amount of pain but it does hurt the team.

Is a speck less than a smidgeon? If so I think speck is overstating the value. I am very interested on if he signs with another team, what he gets and what the issue was with the physical.

It keeps another team from getting a player that could potentially hurt you for reduced cost.

Nice is dumb. Nice helps one of the other 29 teams.

I've never said Dan doesn't do his job. The question is how does this fit into his job? It makes no sense for the Orioles to not extend a 40% offer they know won't be accepted. No gain exists for them in that scenario.

To me it would be a lot different if the O's gave an advantage like that to another team and it came back to bite them. The smart money says to make the 40% offer. A "mended fence" with an agent isn't worth anything. I don't see how thinking the O's are not willing to risk 164K is outside of the theory I had earlier. At the end of the day they have a fair bit of draft money back in their pocket. I'm not even one of those conspiracy theorists that think the O's intentional fail pitchers so they can renegotiate terms.

They would not. I don't know what they could have seen in a physical that would make 164K too high a price.

On one hand he is an unrestricted free agent that can sign for any team without impacted their draft pools. On the other hand he will need to re-enter the draft, use up a team's draft pick and a portion of their draft pool. It isn't close to the same thing.

How can this happen if the O's don't allow it to happen?

How is he being screwed? He has a commitment to play college ball and he could have gone to a CC and reentered the draft next year. I think you don't let another team possibly forgo the draft slotting to sign a player you selected. Odds are good he never makes it but will you feel the same way if he is toeing the rubber for the Yankees in four years?

Sure. What difference does that make? Since when is the draft about doing what is best for the player?

Unless the budget is so at the seams they can't even afford that.

Sure. I was just throwing out a pro-managment crackpot theory to even things up.

You would think it would be worth them eating the 164K even if they released him right after.