oriolefan1035

Lol calm down buddy, I’m not the OP here.

You need to go back and qualify your baseball input by telling us how many sports you are elite in to warrant a response on that. Geez man, follow the thread rules!

@Tony-OH for the love of God, stop the count on this dumpster fire.

This is probably going to be an unpopular opinion, but I feel like EBJ is getting overrated a good bit. Granted, I haven’t watched him play, but looking at stats and reading scouting reports, it seems like he’s an all defense, stolen base threat, with zero power, and a below average hit tool. His speed and defense seem to make him a good floor bet to be a Billy Hamilton type, but it feels like there is very little ceiling above that for upside. There’s some value in that, but he’s basically an OF Jorge Mateo. I’d argue Mateo has more upside though.

With Daddy Rubenstein buying the team, hopefully this thread can now just die. Save the prospects, spend the cash. Snell or JMo come on down!!

We have a solid young core and very low payroll. We should be augmenting through FA at this point. Someone like Snell or Gray should have been the target from the onset this offseason in my opinion. I’m not opposed to trading some of the top prospects. Cease just isn’t that guy I’d do it for. Most of our core will be here the next 5+ years. I don’t want to sacrifice several high end guys to get a middle rotation arm for 2 years. I’d want more years of control or a higher end target along the lines of a Gerritt Cole.

You need some really exceptional swing and miss stuff if you’re going to carry a 1.42WHIP…

If you include Tyler Wells, plus John Means SSS, we have 5 SPs coming back that all had lower ERAs than Cease last year. If you take out 2022, Cease looks like a very middle of the road pitcher. He’s not a front line starter like some are building him up to be. The smoke around him is exhausting. We should move on.

I’ll be happy for the Orioles to move on and the 250+ pages of Cease discussion to end. 3.91ERA in 2021, 2.20 in 2022, and all other years over 4 (4.58 last year). He looks like a guy who had a career year in 2022 and promptly fell back to earth. He’d be behind GrayRod and Bradish, behind Means if he returns to pre-injury form, and I’m not even convinced he’s better than Kremer. He probably marginally improves our back end of the rotation for a couple years. If we give up anything significant for that, I’ll be remarkably disappointed.

Ownership issues aside, my preference would be to use resources to extend Gunnar and Holliday through their prime career years if possible rather than sign a highly paid reliever. Realizing that won’t happen, let’s go Hader and try to win while they’re here.

I have a friend like this. Literally cannot even talk to him during games any more. I put him on mute until the end of our playoff run. The Orioles are a lot of fun this year and if folks are sucking that joy out of your life, you gotta cut them out.

I hate Showalter being included. 10yrs ago we traded a 19y.o. Josh Hader (who had very similar numbers to Showalter at the time in Delmarva) along with LJ Hoes for mediocre Bud Norris. This feels like that

We’ll be ahead by percentage points though.

Figured it deserved its own thread. Feels good!

1. Holliday 2. Cowser 3. Westburg 4. Mayo 5. Kjerstad 6. Ortiz 7. Basallo 8. Armbruester 9. McDermott 10. Hall