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O's told vlad has a 8m deal on table i wouldn't sign him now


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Damon can actually play an outfield spot dude. C'mon.

Vlad was worth 2.1 rWAR and 2.6 fWAR last season.

Damon was worth 1.6 rWAR and 1.9 fWAR last season.

If he can play the OF decently, it's probably a wash between the two.

Vlad had the better numbers and stats last year, so he should be getting $6 million IMO.

He played in more games than Thome, and hit better than both Manny and Damon.

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Vlad was worth 2.1 rWAR and 2.6 fWAR last season.

Damon was worth 1.6 rWAR and 1.9 fWAR last season.

Well tell that to the Rays. They obviously preferred Damon to Vlad. Maybe it's because Damon can still play the OF, lead off, and steal a base now and then?
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Well tell that to the Rays. They obviously preferred Damon to Vlad. Maybe it's because Damon can still play the OF, lead off, and steal a base now and then?

Or maybe it's because Damon wasn't asking for $8-10 million and they didn't want to wait for Vlad.

Friedman said Damon and Manny were a package deal...

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Damon can actually play an outfield spot dude. C'mon.

Yeah, so could Chris Singleton. People know he's a DH. He's also a legitimate MOO hitter. We need one of those. We already have outfielders. That makes him more valuable to us, unless we are overestimating our current roster, and putting TOO much faith in our trade acquisitions to all stay healthy and rebound. Which we are, IMO.

According to Fangraphs calculations, Vlad was worth $10.3 million last season; Damon was worth $7.5 million. That said, Damon has been worth more over the past three seasons, so I'll give you that.

Point being, $8 million isn't an outrageous sum, really. I think the problem with a negotiating tactic like AM's here is that he's trying to take advantage, which is a form of negotiating in bad faith. When a player has limited options, you don't rub his nose in it. If you really want him on your team, you make a deal he can take proudly (offer $4 plus incentives to $8, say)...

You work with him, you get creative. If Vlad took $2 million, say, he would really be embarrassed in front of his colleagues. That's my take. He's worth less than half of what Gregg is worth to this team? That's flat-out ridiculous, IMO. Regardless, I really need to enter a 12-step program for people who cannot stop posting about, and defending, Vlad. I've got a problem.

We all know Vlad is a proud man. Why not, for once, just pay the guy decently and get on with it? Why make everything so painful? That's how AM tends to work... slowly... painfully... high-risk signings...

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We all know Vlad is a proud man. Why not, for once, just pay the guy decently and get on with it? Why make everything so painful? That's how AM tends to work... slowly... painfully... high-risk signings...

I will never support signing an already-multimillionaire to an inflated deal (sans-competition) to satiate said millionaire's pride.

IMO, arguing otherwise borders on shameful.

As has been said many, many times already...teams aren't falling all over themselves to sign Vlad. His market is limited. As you pointed out, the O's have already committed a considerable amount of money to high(er) risk signings. If Vlad wants to play here, he may do so for the amount of money the market dictates he's owed. My Baltimore pride, however, doesn't think the Orioles should bid against themselves for the services of an aging vet who's already cashed plenty of exorbitant checks over the course of his career.

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