Pie > Jones ?

[El Gordo]

So could I. Bergesen I think. And then, the gloves are off.

Bergeson? Ouch! I think I'd rather trade Tillman. Just how much better is Floyd than Bergy?

[Hooded Viper]

Also, look at a combo of salary dump and SP from the Mets of Pie and a Mil starter not named Britton.

Hold on, salary dump, are you suggesting a Johan Santana type salary dump:scratchchinhmm:

[El Gordo]

Hold on, salary dump, are you suggesting a Johan Santana type salary dump:scratchchinhmm:

That'd be a big gamble for AM. Santana's still rehabing from arm surgery.

"The Mets do not expect Santana to return from shoulder surgery until the beginning of July, according to a timetable general manager Sandy Alderson laid out today."

http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2011/02/mets_pitcher_johan_santana_joi.html

[Hooded Viper]

That'd be a big gamble for AM. Santana's still rehabing from arm surgery.

"The Mets do not expect Santana to return from shoulder surgery until the beginning of July, according to a timetable general manager Sandy Alderson laid out today."

http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2011/02/mets_pitcher_johan_santana_joi.html

Yeah I agree but I can't see anyone else on the Mets who we would be looking to acquire via a salary dump. Pitching wise anyway.

[El Gordo]

Yeah I agree but I can't see anyone else on the Mets who we would be looking to acquire via a salary dump. Pitching wise anyway.

Chris Young. $6+MM?

[JERSEYORIOLE]

I don't think Pie has a future on this team. If he does it's by default. I think he is a fine athlete, but not a good baseball player. I hope Nolan can step up and return to 2009 form and force Pie to be traded. Not only do I not think Pie is a long term answer on this team, I think the longer we hold on to him, the more he will be exposed and will end up having less value then he already has.

[Lateralus]

Any chance that Adam Jones slumps in spring training & Felix Pie has a great one, and Pie becomes our starting CF this year?

I'll most certainly have some of what you're smoking.

Never understood the fascination with Pie. Except of course for people wanting to be on the Pie "bandwagon" early so in case he does ever break out the aforementioned can be like "see, I knew it all along......"

[RevOlution]

Well, I'm keeping the faith. I'm one of his biggest fans and I'm not ready to give up on him at this point.

I don't expect him to be our starting LF'er, because of our situation with Luke. But I do expect him to be a darn good bench backup for our outfield.

[Rex Thunder]

If Felix tears it up in spring training it would probably mean he gets traded, no matter what Jones does.

Or Luke Scott getting traded is much more likely. if Felix is lighting it up...

[Rex Thunder]

I'll most certainly have some of what you're smoking.

Never understood the fascination with Pie. Except of course for people wanting to be on the Pie "bandwagon" early so in case he does ever break out the aforementioned can be like "see, I knew it all along......"

You never understood the fascination about a 23 year old guy (when we got him) with immense talent and potential, who tore thru the minor leagues, but never got the playing time at the major league level consistently enough to show it???

Really??

Or maybe you just like to NOT hop on the bandwagon, so YOU can be the one to say, "See I told you he would be nothing," if he doesn't succeed.

Bottom line, if Felix Pie can stay healthy, he can be a dominant force. His issue the past 2 years have been injury.

[Can_of_corn]

Bottom line, if Felix Pie can stay healthy, he can be a dominant force. His issue the past 2 years have been injury.

No they have not. The issue is his game does not translate to the major league level. He has had a total of one dominant month in the majors. He is not a dominant force, he is a fourth outfielder. His OPS in the majors:

604

637

763

718

His lifetime OPS is under 700. The odds of some light bulb going off, at 26, are long.

[El Gordo]

No they have not. The issue is his game does not translate to the major league level. He has had a total of one dominant month in the majors. He is not a dominant force, he is a fourth outfielder. His OPS in the majors:

604

637

763

718

His lifetime OPS is under 700. The odds of some light bulb going off, at 26, are long.

Those numbers are irrelevent.

His PA were:

194

93

281

308

You need a few more than 876 PA spread out over 4 years before you make a final judgement on any player.

[Can_of_corn]

Those numbers are irrelevent.

His PA were:

194

93

281

308

You need a few more than 876 PA spread out over 4 years before you make a final judgement on any player.

They are not irrelevent, you could say that those numbers must be viewed in context. They are not irrelevent, he is what he is.

How did he improve in 2010 over 2009?

[El Gordo]

They are not irrelevent, you could say that those numbers must be viewed in context. They are not irrelevent, he is what he is.

How did he improve in 2010 over 2009?

SSS.:rolleyestf:

[Can_of_corn]

SSS.:rolleyestf:

Small sample size is a lot more valuable then dreams and wishes.

I say again, how did he improve from 2009 to 2010?