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Not my recollection at all. I recall hearing long ago (through Peace21 and/or other insiders and/or the press) that Bedard's agent proposed a long-term deal last winter and the Oriole front office simply never responded to it one way or the other, and never made a counteroffer. Bedard was insulted that the FO didn't even have the courtesy to respond and decided that in the future he wasn't going to listen to a long-term deal from the FO unless it was an offer he couldn't possibly refuse.

If that's what happned, it's pretty bad if you ask me, but since it didn't happen on MacPhail's watch you'd hope Bedard wouldn't hold it against him.

I believe the Sun said(it may have been Peace but i think it was the Sun) that we offered him a 4 year deal for just under 20 million.

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I actually played this game for the first time last week. I was confused and was the A...you know family board and all most rounds...oh well.

Ha Ha that's funny! I played that game about three weeks ago. Geez that game serves it's purpose.

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My only concern is that while Flanny is dealing the cards he'd get to make MacPhail drink. :cool:

Nah, he won't have enough time to make a decision if he wants MacPhail to drink along with the time it takes to contact Mr. Angelos and ask for his permission if its OK as well. It's a process.

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I believe the Sun said(it may have been Peace but i think it was the Sun) that we offered him a 4 year deal for just under 20 million.

I do not remember reading that, but it's certainly possible.

Edit -- you are correct, the Sun said this:

Future considerations

The Orioles made an attempt to sign Bedard to a long-term extension last year, but it went nowhere. According to team sources, they offered Bedard a four-year deal at a little less than $5 million per season. Bedard and his agent, Mark Pieper, predictably said no thanks.

One team source said the club wanted to see whether Bedard, who had Tommy John surgery earlier in his career, could stay healthy over the course of another full season before they made a more lucrative offer. Ultimately, the Orioles avoided arbitration with the pitcher, agreeing to a $3.4 million deal after both sides entered arbitration figures that were $1.3 million apart.

Bedard declined to comment on past negotiations with the club, including whether he felt slighted by the contract offer. Asked what his reaction would be if he is approached this offseason with a more lucrative deal, Bedard said, "If it makes sense ... we'll have to have talks and see what happens."

But essentially, the ball is in the Orioles' court.

"There is no reason to make a statement that he wouldn't consider a multi-year deal. That's just silly," Pieper said. "But as a general statement, it's more difficult to sign players to multi-year deals the closer that they get to free agency."

Bedard said he enjoys being an Oriole. "I like it here," he said. "Right now, this is the most fun and best team that I've played on. Everyone gets along. Even when we lose, we still have fun."

Bedard said several factors will determine whether he signs long term, including the success of the team. He is well aware that most of the team's nucleus is signed only through the 2009 season, when he's eligible for free agency.

"It's never fun playing for a losing team," he said.

The Orioles should get a better feel for Bedard's price tag in the coming months. Chicago Cubs ace Carlos Zambrano is eligible for free agency after this season. He already reportedly turned down a five-year, $80 million offer from the Cubs. Sabathia and reigning AL Cy Young Award winner Johan Santana of the Minnesota Twins are eligible after next season, while Mark Buehrle just signed a four-year, $56 million deal with the Chicago White Sox.

Orioles second baseman Brian Roberts knows a little about what Bedard is going through. The Orioles wanted to sign him to a longer-term deal this past offseason, but Roberts decided to extend by just one year because he wanted to see the direction of the franchise. While Roberts and Bedard have the same agent, Roberts said it wasn't his place to weigh in on Bedard's decision.

"That's his contract. That's his choice," he said. "He's here for the next two years. He's on the same time frame I am. But do I think he deserves [an extension]? Do I think they should do it? Yeah, certainly. You're talking about one of the best in the game."

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:ZZkcYlX48NUJ:www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.orioles07aug07,0,2793156,full.story+bedard+long+term+contract&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us

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I do not remember reading that, but it's certainly possible.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.orioles07aug07,0,3286263.story?page=2

The Orioles made an attempt to sign Bedard to a long-term extension last year, but it went nowhere. According to team sources, they offered Bedard a four-year deal at a little less than $5 million per season. Bedard and his agent, Mark Pieper, predictably said no thanks.
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Isn't it reasonable to assume that if Bedard gets a big $ contract with anothe team that is in the playoff hunt every year, presumable a bigger market, that all kind of media pressure and off the field expectations will occur?

How will Bedard handle that? If what is said about him is true, then how will he handle being a pariah in another city.

Seems to me the guy just wants to make millions and not have to talk to anyone. He'll be another crazy Steve Carlton.

Bedard will be in this situation wherever he goes with his chilly attitude

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Belkfast,

Please talk to your guys and ask them nicely NOT to trade Brian Roberts!!

Thank You

Does this mean they've finally gotten Cindyluvsbrady approval to trade Miggi?

And why does Belkast get an extra letter? You always take one out of my name.

Just think about it for a sec: He's talking about *trading* guys, and the extra letter is an Eff ;-)

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