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GAME THREAD: Yankees vs. Blue Jays 5/01


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Rajai Davis - CF

Yunel Escobar - SS

Jose Bautista - RF

Adam Lind - 1B

Juan Riveram - LF

J.P. Arencibia - C

David Cooper - DH

Edwin Encarnacion - 3B

John McDonald - 2B

Jesse Litsch (2-1, 2.86 ERA)


Derek Jeter - SS

Curtis Granderson - CF

Mark Teixeira - 1B

Alex Rodriguez - 3B

Robinson Cano - 2B

Nick Swisher - RF

Jorge Posada - DH

Brett Gardner - LF

Francisco Cervelli - C

Ivan Nova - P (1-2, 5.82 ERA)

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