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O's lineup per Roch:

Brian Roberts 2B

Nick Markakis RF

Derrek Lee 1B

Vladimir Guerrero DH

Adam Jones CF

Luke Scott LF

Mark Reynolds 3B

Jake Fox C

Robert Andino SS

Chris Tillman RHP

Royals Lineup:

Getz 2B

Cabrera CF

Gordon LF

Butler DH

Francoeur RF

Betemit 1B

Aviles 3B

Pena C

Escobar SS

Chen P

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They just showed a cute, little squirrel in the Kauffman Stadium fence on the Royals broadcast.

It wasn't the fence it was caught in the scoreboard...

Any idea if this game will be played??

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    • banks703
      Jackson Holliday 2023

      By banks703 · Posted

      I'm a big fan of Joey Ortiz but I do not think that he (and especially not Norby) factor as much into how they handle Holliday as I would like. In regards to the ROY/extra pick scenario - Position Player accolades are almost exclusively based on offensive production. I love me some Joey Ortiz (not in that way but not there's anything wrong with that) but I don't think that anyone in baseball is torn over who is going to be the more premier offensive player between Ortiz and Holliday. Holliday is never going to be the fielder that Joey is already but with Gunnar's emergence at SS this year, both of Holliday and Ortiz at SS (defensively) are less of a priority. Going forward it's going to be a matter of who are the best 13 players. In my opinion, Holliday is already one of their best 13 with the bat. The defensive stuff becomes far less of a concern with him at 2B and if the kid goes .310/.380/.450 for an .830 OPS and steals 25 - 30 bases with 12 - 15 homers.. he's going to pace the league for ROY.  2B puts him in the lineup (picture an eventual top of the order in Holliday, Adley, Gunnar... that's absurdly good) from Day 1 in 2024 and it improves their team. Essentially they would be replacing Frazier with Holliday. It doesn't make ANY sense for them to delay a promotion to Baltimore for Holliday unless they hold him down in Norfolk until September and I promise you, his hitting will make that impossible for them to do. He is the best bat-to-ball guy in their system, which includes the big club. I think he could potentially win ROY even if they wait a month to promote him but they won't do that because they learned their lesson with Adley last year. If a guy is going to challenge (or be a favorite to win ROY) you aren't going to hold him down because of the pick. And they're not going to hold Holliday down for Ortiz or Norby... as much as I like Ortiz as a prospect and player, it's just not going to happen. 
    • owknows
      More Angelos as the fly in the ointment content

      By owknows · Posted

      He's actually employing Elias to enact the strategy I told you I thought he was. And I don't even think it's a bad idea. Tank... stock the farm... Get the high production years... Trade them in ARB.. Restock the farm... Repeat. Repeat... preferably without the tanking. His problem is he seems a little too dull witted and/or narcissistic to shut up and go about his business.  
    • ShoelesJoe
      Jackson Holliday 2023

      By ShoelesJoe · Posted

      I don't think there's any upside to Holliday going to the AFL. It's not like the Orioles need to see more of him to know what they've got, or to showcase him for possible trades. If he's great them okay that's what we expected. If he struggles then maybe he (or the team) starts to doubt his status as the #1 prospect. He might even get hurt and delay his promotion to the big league club.  Let him rest. Let him decompress. He'll have enough baseball in his life over the next fifteen years.
    • orioles119
      More Angelos as the fly in the ointment content

      By orioles119 · Posted

      At this point, he's the male equivalent of the owner in the first Major League movie.
    • Frobby
      Adam Frazier should not play in the field

      By Frobby · Posted

      By the way, Catch Probability does take direction into account, and estimates that the folder loses 1 ft./sec when going back on a ball.   https://www.mlb.com/news/catch-probability-updated-to-include-direction-c232532408 Answering a question I’ve had for a while, they also now adjust for catches made at or near the wall.  https://www.mlb.com/news/catch-probability-updated-to-account-for-walls-c269814542
    • tntoriole
      Adam Frazier should not play in the field

      By tntoriole · Posted

      Yes like the strong opinions about Frazier have not been shared previously lol.  Urias won the Gold Glove last year ..likely not be winning it this year. And he has made more errors than one this season but none in such a critical moment.  Not to worry, 2023 will soon enough pass and Adam won’t be the issue in 2024 I suspect. 
    • clapdiddy
      More Angelos as the fly in the ointment content

      By clapdiddy · Posted

      Yup...part of the "negotiations" with the Stadium Authority (or whatever entity is involved) in beefing up the Camden Yards area and letting Angelos profit from it.

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