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Back in the day this type of discussion would be titled-- "pitcher or thrower"-- Of course GROD is more than a thrower, but ,to me , there is a significant difference wrt "pitching skill". Palmer talks about it all the time, particularly when he is critical of a pitcher. Leaving it in the middle of the plate is a mortal sin to him. -
By Can_of_corn · Posted
I don't think it's a repeatable skill. (in the vast majority of cases) Ever read Mike Fast? -
By Billy F-Face3 · Posted
I don't think the skill of being able to force a batter to roll over on top of a pitch and induce a ground ball right to an infielder for a double play should be minimized. That's part of the art of pitching and it's part of winning baseball. -
Couldn’t agree more. He’s come a long way. One of my biggest concerns about Mayo was how much he pulled the ball. This season he must have close to double digit opposite field homers. -
By Can_of_corn · Posted
Wildcard said the same thing. Do high k guys throw more pitches? He declined to provide evidence. I think base runners are the main driving factor in higher pitch counts. -
By Sports Guy · Posted
I don’t think that’s really true at all and again, it’s one of those myths that I dont believe there is any evidence for. Walks are the biggest factor in driving up pitch count. And btw, using Maddux as some kind of example is really using an extreme outlier. He is arguably the greatest pitcher all time in terms of the combo of command and control. So yes if Means can be the greatest ever in that while still missing bats and K’ing guys at around league average rates, he will do just fine. -
By Can_of_corn · Posted
There is this revisionist view of him as some slop ball pitcher for his whole career.
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