Why do some of you love "losing" so much?

[My O's Face]

I've been on Orioles Hangout for a long time. I don't post much anymore, because if you "go against the grain" you get bashed and insulted. I really don't like threads like this, but I feel it needs to be said.

Why do some of you love "losing" so much?

Every year we start threads about players like Texeira, AGon, Fielder, Pujols, Beltre, etc. It's funny, because so many people on OH say those guys aren't worth the money. I've got news for ya.. YES THEY ARE!!! All of those teams are winning, and the Orioles are just content with signing has-beens or never-will-be's like Vlad, Lee, Huff, Wigginton, Millwood, etc. There have been alot of has-beens over the last 10 years, and it's embarassing. Baltimore is the last resort for these players.

I've been reading the same old theads year after year about signing big time sluggers. The threads are the same, but the players changes. A few guys on OH say we need to spend the money, but alot of you say it's too much. It's not your money!

Good Lord! When will some of you wake up? You buy your O's hat, t-shirt, jersey, etc. You pay good money go to the games. What do you get? LOSING. Isn't it time Angelos and MacPhail use some of that money to try and win?

NEWS FLASH: WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING IS NOT WORKING!! MacPhail has had some good drafts. He did get a good haul for Bedard, even though the "rumored offer" from Cinci of Hamilton, Votto, and Baily would have been even more awesome.

We are not gonna win like this. And please don't bring up Tampa from a few years ago. That was an accident.

IT'S TIME TO SPEND SOME MONEY!! Let the bashing begin...

[waroriole]

Thanks for the insulting and woefully ignorant post. It's not much different from most of the ones you make though.

[Austin]

We are not gonna win like this. And please don't bring up Tampa from a few years ago. That was an accident.

No.. no it wasn't. Which part was the accident? The World Series appearance in 2008? Or the American League best 96 wins last year? That's an awful long accident, man.

Signing a big name slugger will improve this team by a few wins, but if you really want some staying power you have to invest in the draft and international scouting. Once you fix that mess and have a solid core to build on, the big names will come a little easier.

[The Rick]

I agree that a players worth is relative to what said player means to a particular team. I agree that some people are way too black and white and unable to consider that aspect of things.

I also think that it's imperative for us not to put our eggs in one basket. If signing a "premium" bat or two by overspending means we can't retain Matusz/Britton/Arrieta/Wieters, etc. when they become arb eligible or free agents, then we truly can't afford to buy "premium" bats.

[Sports Guy]

Those guys are worth the money to teams that are close to contending.

If we were a Prince Fielder away from contending, I wouldn't care about the cost...But he doesn't bring us close to contention...We need a lot of other stuff.

What many of you fail to realize is that its not that we don't want the team to spend the money, its that we want them to have the proper structure and foundation in place first...and then go spend the money.

People say the Orioles have been rebuilding for 14 years...That's not true...They started doing it when they traded Miggy and Bedard and then they stopped....they haven't rebuilt since and sure as hell didn't do it before.

They have still never truly done what they have needed to do.

[My O's Face]

I would hate that. Don't wanna lose any of those guys for sure.

[My O's Face]

Thanks for the insulting and woefully ignorant post. It's not much different from most of the ones you make though.

Thanks bro.

[OFFNY]

Why do some of you love "losing" so much ?

Regardless of anything else that you talked about in your post' date=' I don't believe that you know why or when most of us (OH posters) became Oriole fans in the first place to make that sweeping generalization, particularly to be used as the title of your thread. I became an Oriole fan because they were one of two teams playing in the 1971 World Series. Hence, obviously I don't like losing, otherwise I would not have jumped on board at the height of the glory years. I have passionately rooted for the Orioles through the glory years, and I continue to passionately root for the Orioles through the recent losing years, because they are [b']MY[/b] team .......... it has nothing to do with how badly we have been playing for over a decade, or whether or not I agree with McPhail's rebuilding plan, or with Angelos' payroll, or which free agents we do or don't sign, etc.

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[waroriole]

Thanks bro.

You're welcome. Also, there was never even a "rumored" offer of Hamilton, Votto and Bailey for Bedard. That's nothing but wishful thinking written to try to prove some ridiculous point.

[My O's Face]

No.. no it wasn't. Which part was the accident? The World Series appearance in 2008? Or the American League best 96 wins last year? That's an awful long accident, man.

Signing a big name slugger will improve this team by a few wins, but if you really want some staying power you have to invest in the draft and international scouting. Once you fix that mess and have a solid core to build on, the big names will come a little easier.

You make a good point. Do you think we can do that same thing though?

[Sports Guy]

We are not gonna win like this. And please don't bring up Tampa from a few years ago. That was an accident.

Wow, at first glance, I missed this.

Seeing you write this(and obviously believing it) tells me all I need to know about how you feel a baseball team should be built.

I suggest you go be a Yankees fan.

[My O's Face]

You're welcome. Also, there was never even a "rumored" offer of Hamilton, Votto and Bailey for Bedard. That's nothing but wishful thinking written to try to prove some ridiculous point.

Keep on losing bud. It looks good on you.

[My O's Face]

Wow, at first glance, I missed this.

Seeing you write this(and obviously believing it) tells me all I need to know about how you feel a baseball team should be built.

I suggest you go be a Yankees fan.

Come on man. That's a terrible thing to say.

[Sports Guy]

Come on man. That's a terrible thing to say.

So was your opening post.

You have the mindset of spend spend spend and you have no idea of how to do it or when to do it and you want to come on here and bash people because they have an intelligent understand of what should be done?

[OFFNY]

Come on' date=' man. That's a terrible thing to say.[/quote']

Actually, that's not at all a terrible thing to say. It's a perfectly natural reaction by someone who passionately roots for a team that happens to have been on a horrible losing run for 13 seasons. What you said in the first place was a terrible thing to say.