Blake Davis wants his shot at the majors

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Reimold and Davis are not comparable. Reimold was a top hitting prospect for years and was very good for this team in 2009. Davis is, as I said, a RH Brandon Fahey.

They are compared in some ways and I just compared them.

Yes, Reimold is a hitting prospect. I totally agree. But he wasn't promoted until he was hittng. The same may be true with Adams 'replacement. If the O's have three choices to replace Adams then the guy that is hitting may have an edge. And I agree neither Davis, Green nor Harris are world beaters. They are utility players. But the O's have a void at 2B until Roberts returns. Andino is not hitting righthanded pitching. If the callup can, he may see more action then someone who can't hit righties or is not hitting right now.

[Frobby]

By the way, who are we going to drop from the 40-man roster if we replace Adams with Davis, or the others for that matter?

[OFFNY]

By the way, who are we going to drop from the 40-man roster if we replace Adams with Davis, or the others for that matter ?

Adam Jones.

[jabba72]

I believe Blake is 27 years old, and this is his first hot month ever in AAA. Definitely not an everyday player we're looking at here. I would rather see what Adams can do.

[JimPalmerJr]

Didn't waiving Fox get the O's to 39 on the 40 man ?

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Didn't waiving Fox get the O's to 39 on the 40 man ?

Correct. 39. No one has to be DFA'd.

[Frobby]

Didn't waiving Fox get the O's to 39 on the 40 man ?

Did we waive him? I thought we just DFA'd him, since he has no options.

[Crazysilver03]

Did we waive him? I thought we just DFA'd him, since he has no options.

When a player is DFA'ed, they are removed from the 40 man roster.

[DrungoHazewood]

That's why guys like Bautista and Turner go other places and develop.

A) Bautista was a raw as can be Rule 5er who went through multiple organizations and many years before his sudden development.

B) Turner's development consisted of a hot week in May. Otherwise he's exactly an older Ryan Adams.

I think he has a good point about Adams. He needs the playing time to improve his glove. We need someone to replace him on the bench. Davis makes sense because he is a good defender. His SSS batting stats are moot.

I have my doubts that the Orioles think he's a particularly good fielder. The Tides have three players who can play shortstop. Two are age 30+ journeyman, the other is Davis. Green and Harris have been the regulars at short while Davis has played mainly right field, never at second, and only six games combined between short and third.

What the heck does that mean. If the O's send Adams down because he needs to play everyday, they have three choices at AAA to replace him. To guys that are not hitting, Harris and Green. And one guy that is. Besides that Davis hits righthanded pitching and Andino doesn't. So it looks like a good fit to me. Add to that Davis is known as a good defender and Harris and Green are probably bother below average defensive infielders.

So what's your beef?

It would be somewhat strange for the O's to call up a guy who's been playing mostly right field to be a defense-first replacement for a utility infielder. Davis has only played 18 games at second base in his professional life.

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It would be somewhat strange for the O's to call up a guy who's been playing mostly right field to be a defense-first replacement for a utility infielder. Davis has only played 18 games at second base in his professional life.

Well you could be right. However, Davis is an infielder that is playing the OF. People talk about small samples, Davis as played the infield his whole minor league career. I think we have to consider the competition here. Neither Green nor Harris are good infielders. They are both range challenged. And neither have hit well this year. Promoting a hot hitting Davis seems to make sense at this time because he can platoon with Andino who hasn't hit righthanded pitching. From what I have heard Davis is pretty good with the glove and therefore I think the move to 2nd shouldn't be that much of a problem for him.

[Tony-OH]

Davis is an organizational guy who is filling in in the outfield because the Orioles have a current need there. He doesn't have the power or speed to play every day and he doesn't have the arm strength to play SS effectively in the major leagues. He's good organizational guy to have around in an "in emergency break glass" kind of way but he's in no way "forcing his way" to the major leagues. Now I haven't seen Davis in a few years but he has one double in 151 ABs, a .601 OPS against left-handers, and his highest OPS above High-A was .714 in 2008 at Bowie. He has a career SS FLD PCT of .953, .957 at 2B, and .929 at 3B. He's never shown more than adequate range at best and doesn't have the arm to play SS for anything more than inning here or there kind of situation.

If he's lucky he'll catch fire and a break and end up with a Howie Clark type of career, but Clark was a much better hitter than Davis. Sorry to rain on anyone's parade, but the Orioles wouldn't be playing him in the outfield is he was under consideration for the infield utility job in Baltimore anytime soon.

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Davis is an organizational guy who is filling in in the outfield because the Orioles have a current need there. He doesn't have the power or speed to play every day and he doesn't have the arm strength to play SS effectively in the major leagues. He's good organizational guy to have around in an "in emergency break glass" kind of way but he's in no way "forcing his way" to the major leagues. Now I haven't seen Davis in a few years but he has one double in 151 ABs, a .601 OPS against left-handers, and his highest OPS above High-A was .714 in 2008 at Bowie. He has a career SS FLD PCT of .953, .957 at 2B, and .929 at 3B. He's never shown more than adequate range at best and doesn't have the arm to play SS for anything more than inning here or there kind of situation.

If he's lucky he'll catch fire and a break and end up with a Howie Clark type of career, but Clark was a much better hitter than Davis. Sorry to rain on anyone's parade, but the Orioles wouldn't be playing him in the outfield is he was under consideration for the infield utility job in Baltimore anytime soon.

Tony, I agree with most of what you are saying.

I wasn't think that Davis was going to have some long career in the majors, just that he may platoon with Andino at 2nd until Roberts is back. What your post lacks in any kind of comparison to the two other candidates - Green and Harris. To start with neither of those two guys are hitting. If they are recalled they probably sit the bench 90% of the time while Andino bats .162 vs righthanders. That is not real helpful to the team.

Considering the competition and the fact that Andino is the backup SS/3B so the guy that is called up just has to be able to play 2B, I think that Davis may be hot at the right time.

However, I am not saying that I can outguess anyone at what the O's will do to replace Adams. Its often hard to predict the O's moves. And this time is no different. I am just pointing who's hot and the possibilities that might come to pass.

[DrungoHazewood]

Tony, I agree with most of what you are saying.

I wasn't think that Davis was going to have some long career in the majors, just that he may platoon with Andino at 2nd until Roberts is back. What your post lacks in any kind of comparison to the two other candidates - Green and Harris. To start with neither of those two guys are hitting. If they are recalled they probably sit the bench 90% of the time while Andino bats .162 vs righthanders. That is not real helpful to the team.

Considering the competition and the fact that Andino is the backup SS/3B so the guy that is called up just has to be able to play 2B, I think that Davis may be hot at the right time.

However, I am not saying that I can outguess anyone at what the O's will do to replace Adams. Its often hard to predict the O's moves. And this time is no different. I am just pointing who's hot and the possibilities that might come to pass.

One flaw with your argument is assuming Andino's .162 average vs righties in 1/3rd of a season is in any way meaningful.

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One flaw with your argument is assuming Andino's .162 average vs righties in 1/3rd of a season is in any way meaningful.

If we are trying to project how Andino will hit going forward his current stats are probably the best data we have. His minor league stats are not as good in projecting as his major league stats.

Since he has played a lot more this year then in past years because of the injuries to Hardy and Roberts, his current stats are probably project him in a better light then what he would do playing once or twice a week.

Right now he is hitting well against lefties and very poor against righties. This year's data is about the best that we have for projecting.

Andino hitting versus lefties may be depended on him getting to face them regularly. When Roberts returns, Andino playing time will be impacted but it is yet to be determined whether if he is hitting so well versus lefties he will force his way into the lineup against them.

[DrungoHazewood]

If we are trying to project how Andino will hit going forward his current stats are probably the best data we have. His minor league stats are not as good in projecting as his major league stats.

Since he has played a lot more this year then in past years because of the injuries to Hardy and Roberts, his current stats are probably project him in a better light then what he would do playing once or twice a week.

Right now he is hitting well against lefties and very poor against righties. This year's data is about the best that we have for projecting.

Andino hitting versus lefties may be depended on him getting to face them regularly. When Roberts returns, Andino playing time will be impacted but it is yet to be determined whether if he is hitting so well versus lefties he will force his way into the lineup against them.

No. Robert Andino has 82 PAs against righties this year. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if someone did a study and came to the conclusion that assuming everyone was league average was more accurate than using their numbers in their first 82 PAs against righties.

Andino also has about the same number of PAs against lefties, and is hitting .379. Would you say that the best estimate we have of his ability going forward is to assume he's Rogers Hornsby against lefties?

In Andino's career he has about a .100 point OPS difference between righties and lefties. Throw in some aging and regression and he's probably a .075 point difference. That's our best estimate, not some tiny split.