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Hahaha.. I did not.. I said that the great reports we are hearing about Bundy were coming from scouts, not bloggers on the internet. :D Just meant the sources were very credible.

Yeah I exaggerated for the humor factor. LOL>

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On Simon, he was used as a starter on Fridays but in relief in Monday games, so the belief is his velocity will improve with a more regular rest pattern. I got the impression from what Tony said that Wright's secondaries are not as good as Simon's, and that Wright would be the one more likely to move quickly to the bullpen if his performance as a starter doesn't pan out.

And I agree with all of this. Wright has a nice fastball but profiles most realistically as a 7th/8th inning reliever. Simon won't wow you, but he's got a deeper arsenal and better pitchability. I know Stotle doesn't like the arm action but I think it can hold up fine as long as he can keep getting the gound balls.

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And I agree with all of this. Wright has a nice fastball but profiles most realistically as a 7th/8th inning reliever. Simon won't wow you, but he's got a deeper arsenal and better pitchability. I know Stotle doesn't like the arm action but I think it can hold up fine as long as he can keep getting the gound balls.

I think you essentially have what you have with Bergesen, which (as was the case with Bergie) will require him to really prove himself at every level. He creates some angles and gets life, but there is a reason his sinker/change are the two primary offerings. It's a tough slot out of which to command a breaking ball and I don't know if I've ever even really see him throw one. Just a little cutter.

Easy to say "as long as he keeps getting grounders." The reality is he also needs to miss bats and that becomes more problematic when you round into a one look pitcher (2-seam and change showing similar movement but at different speeds).

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Yeah it's like an ankle SPRAIN versus just twisting your ankle (strain).

Strain is damage to a muscle, sprain is damage to a joint by overextension of that joint. Klein's injury is most likely a strain, damage to his shoulder muscle.

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Strain is damage to a muscle, sprain is damage to a joint by overextension of that joint. Klein's injury is most likely a strain, damage to his shoulder muscle.

I know, was making an analogy. Either way, damage is a little stiff of a word, strains are fairly minor.

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I know, was making an analogy. Either way, damage is a little stiff of a word, strains are fairly minor.

Figured you did. Just the way you wrote it made it seem like twisting your ankle was a strain.

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I think you essentially have what you have with Bergesen, which (as was the case with Bergie) will require him to really prove himself at every level. He creates some angles and gets life, but there is a reason his sinker/change are the two primary offerings. It's a tough slot out of which to command a breaking ball and I don't know if I've ever even really see him throw one. Just a little cutter.

Easy to say "as long as he keeps getting grounders." The reality is he also needs to miss bats and that becomes more problematic when you round into a one look pitcher (2-seam and change showing similar movement but at different speeds).

Stotle, please rank in terms chances of sticking as a SP in MLB:

Mike Wright

Kyle Simon

Trent Howard

Tyler Wilson

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Stotle, please rank in terms chances of sticking as a SP in MLB:

Mike Wright

Kyle Simon

Trent Howard

Tyler Wilson

Oh, I don't know. Wilson is the only guys I would definitely project to the pen. I think Simon is likely to end-up there because I don't think FB/CH generally plays well as the starter's only average or better offerings. Between Howard and Wright? I had both ranked comparably. Howard has a broader repertoire. I like Wright's body and top two pitches a little more. Ultimately, I think Wright is a groundball reliever capable of 7th inning work -- maybe set-up upside, while Howard is a swingman type.

I guess I go Howard/Wright/Simon/Wilson.

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Is Wright a Jim Johnson type prospect Stotle?

I think, like Johnson, you have a big strong kid that you run out there as a starter until he gives you reason to think he can't hack it. My money, long term, would be on him being a 7th inning groundball guy, with set-up upside.

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