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I still believe Nick holds quite a bit of value on the trade market, what that value is exactly I'm not all that certain.

He has a big enough contract to discourage a substantial return from most organizations considering his dropoff in performance, but it is possible someone see's Nick as a steal and thinks he will blossom in a new situation. He is also signed and still in a prime age range, which is not always the case with an in-season bat for sale.

One teem that comes to mind is the Braves. Nick is obviously a Georgia boy, but I believe there is also more reason to believe a deal could make sense for both sides. Atlanta is thought to be interested in a bat to help out the struggling Dan Uggla, the injured Jason Heyward, and the aging Chipper Jones. The Braves in return have a very nice stockpile of young starting pitchers, mostly in the majors already.

It can be argued that a big bat is more important, especially to offset losing Markakis, but IMO the Orioles still need both pitching and hitting to truly compete. Plus, you can always trade a pitcher down the road (Guthrie at deadline, or another move in the offseason).

With Hanson and Beachy both on the DL there is more reason to think this would be more of a trade deadline move, which would give the Orioles enough time to make a decision on the approach to the end of this season.

I am neither advocating for or against trading Nick, nor am I making a case for the Orioles to become a seller right now. I am a big fan of Nick's, but I am interested to see what the opinions are on a move like the Atlanta example. Any other teams that anyone else see's a logical fit?

For the record, if Jair Jurjjens (and possibly other pieces for circumstantial reasons) could be had for a package centering around Markakis and Tillman, I would make that move. Jurjjens was recently floated as a guy that could be moved for a bat by an Atlanta writer pre-injury to Hanson, so it got me thinking a bit. Markakis would probably move to left field with Heyward in right and Schaeffer in center. I'm certain Atlanta fans would love the idea of dumping Nate McClouth.

For the Orioles, a rotation of Britton, Matusz, Jurjjens, Guthrie, and Arrietta is a very strong start to becoming a real contender. Maybe Guthrie is moved for another piece as well.

Offensively, it would be a huge loss, but moving Nick's contract may actually allow the Orioles the payroll flexibility to go "buy the bats" and the ability to extend Jones and Wieters.

Hopefully, Nick's very recent hot streak continues so that he can help this team, but If the right deal was available, Atlanta or elsewhere, what could the Orioles get back?

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DrungoHazewood Hangout Grand Counsel

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Some day it might stop astonishing me when people advocate trading a player at the absolute bottom of his value. If you could sketch out a plan to trade Nick Markakis and get the dead rock bottom least in return you'd start by trading him in the midst of his worst slump as a professional.

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I think Nick's value is at an all time low but I also think he has more value than a lot of people on here believe.

I think with the contract that he carries, that he has approximately the same value as Mark Reynolds, which means two relievers.

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Nick is a very solid players. Been our best player for years and I expect him to be one of our best players for years to come. I'm looking forward to it. He's just in a slump right now. Every player goes through that.

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See what the Jays got for Rios and expect the same for Markakis.

Right now we might just want to let him go if a team claims him on waivers in August.

Ditto for Luke Scott.

This is quite possibly one of the most inane things I've ever seen anyone post on this forum.

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This is quite possibly one of the most inane things I've ever seen anyone post on this forum.

We owe him $12 million dollars next season and $15 million the next two years after that and $2 million to buy out his option.

Given his performance to date, it's not as inane as you'd think. We could get more production from that money elsewhere than from a slap-hitter with only doubles power.

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We owe him $12 million dollars next season and $15 million the next two years after that and $2 million to buy out his option.

Given his performance to date, it's not as inane as you'd think. We could get more production from that money elsewhere.

If he's still struggling next year... MAYBE what you said isn't one of the most ridiculous things I've read on here.

The facts are that he's starting to get things turned around. Quietly, he's already back up to a .260 hitter and in the last 10 games (including the currently in progress game), he has a hit in every single one of them... four of them are multi-hit games. He's batting .386 in those 10 games, 3 walks, 2 SO, two doubles and a HR.

Now, as far as offseason conditioning and/or preparation, I think THAT should be brought into question. It has taken him longer and longer each year to put it together.... but it looks like early June will end up being viewed as his turning point this season.

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Wow, that is just stupid.

I'll refer to what I said in a previous thread:

Or we can actually see what it will take to put together a winning team, put emotional attachments aside and look at performance and what kind of performance is needed to win. Sometimes to do that, you have to trade away your fan favorites and your younger guys and replace them with difference makers that will take your team to a new level.

I understand Markakis is a fan favorite, but is it really worth paying him that money for the performance he's giving? It's a valid question to ask, and if he's still sub .750 OPS by August, you've got to consider all that money you owe him.

If another team is willing to eat it all, that is not a bad thing and then you just have Roberts' contract to worry about with a ton of payroll room going into the offseason.

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