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Nationals Manager Riggleman resigns because of contract

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MikeAD Hangout Grand Counsel

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I don't know I see this as pretty badass. I am 100% a believer in commitment and honoring commitments but who here hasn't left a job? There's probably a lot more to this (and it seems like there is) but even at face value who am I to judge? Face value: He was honest about what he wanted and they were honest about what they wanted and the two didn't match up so he left. I mean, I've done that.."dear employer, I would like this, this, and this I want my role to be ___" and if it doesn't happen you leave. How is this different?

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I don't know I see this as pretty badass. I am 100% a believer in commitment and honoring commitments but who here hasn't left a job? There's probably a lot more to this (and it seems like there is) but even at face value who am I to judge? Face value: He was honest about what he wanted and they were honest about what they wanted and the two didn't match up so he left. I mean, I've done that.."dear employer, I would like this, this, and this I want my role to be ___" and if it doesn't happen you leave. How is this different?

He didn't just leave his job. He turned his back on the players. That is unforgivable.

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He didn't just leave his job. He turned his back on the players. That is unforgivable.

I mean, I guess, in our world....we hold these people up to such a high standard. If you're involved in baseball we treat you like a saint, we make these lofty standards..compare it to a regular job and see if you can make the same assessment. I understand the commitment, he signed a year long contract to be a Manager, but from the sounds of it, he doesn't seem to have a whole lot of control over what players are on his team...and even if he did, hes looking for a certain contract. The franchise said to him that he wasn't worth an extension and he responded by saying he will no longer be the manager...I think its pretty fair.

We can hold them all up on some pedestal, but at the end of the day this is their job.

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This makes no sense. At some point all contracts have a cut off date. If you extend him for two years in two years you have another season with a drop dead date. Is he going to demand that his contract be extended before he plays that last season? Must he always be signed up for the season after the current one? It is dumb. It logically makes no sense.

He should of waited till the end of the year and if they wanted him back ask for a three year deal then.

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Reading up on this it seems he wanted some authority to dominate the players more. That some of them seemed to not respect him because they thought he was out the door perhaps. He wanted them to realize he was there for a while. The management didnt want to give him that comfort.

Regardless.

He has to play it out. Has to.

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Can anyone describe what this is? It's blocked at work and I'm curious now.

He is at a bar drinking with two very young ladies. Dont know when it was taken. Perhaps last night after he quit he went out for some adult beverages. Just kinda funny.

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Boswell's column:

Jim Riggleman called General Manager Mike Rizzo 45 minutes before Thursday afternoon’s game and asked for a meeting. Minutes later, Riggleman told his boss that he wasn’t getting on the team bus after the game unless Rizzo agreed to have a meeting with him in Chicago to discuss picking up his contract option to manage in 2012.

Riggleman says he just “wanted to have a conversation in Chicago” on the subject. Rizzo says it was an ultimatum. It’s a distinction without any difference whatsoever. The only words that mattered are, “I’m not going to Chicago unless . . .”

Not getting on the bus? Not getting on the plane? Talk turkey or I quit? In three hours? Try that with your boss. Give me $700,000 for next year or I’ll resign in the middle of a long winning streak and say I didn’t get proper respect and fair treatment.

In Rizzo, Riggleman couldn’t have found a worse boss to nag about a new deal or one who would respond worse to his lobbying in the media (me included) for help.

Why? Because Rizzo faced the same obstacles when he became GM. Instead of whining about a longer deal, he did such a strong job that the Nats did what was obvious: They gave him a five-year contract. Rizzo replaced Jim Bowden on an interim basis in 2009. Then, the next year, he was on a short leash like Riggleman this year.

Rizzo said ex-president “Stan Kasten told me, ‘Forget the [expletive] contract. Own the job. Just be the [expletive] GM. Prove you’re the guy.’ ”

And Rizzo, even though he’d spent his whole life working up the baseball chain to be a GM, swallowed and did it. Talk about playing the wrong card with the wrong guy.

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One BIG difference between the two situations.

Speaking of Davey, sounds like he'll take the job if it's offered to him.

Davey and two Bob's formerly managed and are with the Nats' front orifice....also odd that his interim replacement was replaced by Rigs in Seattle when he was fired ....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/nationals-put-john-mclaren-in-charge-for-now-but-plan-on-finding-another-interim-replacement/2011/06/23/AG6yzHiH_story.html

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