Dammit, Reynolds!

[LookitsPuck]

Well, using fielding percentage when it's that low isn't really that poor of a stat to use. A guy can have all the range he wants, but if he's committing errors left and right that would put his career fielding percentage at 930..then..yeah...it says a lot.

[JayThomas]

Anyway, it was probably a lot mental then too, but it was less often. He'd make a great play then screw up the easier one. You can make the tough play but not the easy one? That's pretty much the definition of a mental problem. It's why pitchers screw up easy throws to first, or catchers can't throw it back to the pitchers mound. Don't tell me they physically can't do it.

At some point it doesn't really matter does it? Ryan Adams screwed up easy throws to first. Does that mean he wasn't a bad 2nd baseman - because those must have been mental mistakes? Yes, it seems like that should be correctable but that doesn't mean that it gets corrected. If simple plays don't get made you don't get a pass. Good fielders make the simple plays.

I do think that Reynolds will improve his defense. Why isn't he working with Bordy or Brooksie (if he's healthy enough)? We've had 2 of the best fielders on the left side of the diamond in history who would probably work with him on a regular basis.

[El Gordo]

At some point it doesn't really matter does it? Ryan Adams screwed up easy throws to first. Does that mean he wasn't a bad 2nd baseman - because those must have been mental mistakes? Yes, it seems like that should be correctable but that doesn't mean that it gets corrected. If simple plays don't get made you don't get a pass. Good fielders make the simple plays.

I do think that Reynolds will improve his defense. Why isn't he working with Bordy or Brooksie (if he's healthy enough)? We've had 2 of the best fielders on the left side of the diamond in history who would probably work with him on a regular basis.

Do you know that he isn't? I'm sure he's working with someone. Doubt it's Brooks since he just got out of the hospital. Reynold is a -8 Rtot for his career. that's not good but much better than his current rate. I expect he'll regress to his mean just as he has with his bat. He is less than one -W with the glove and more than 2 +W 's with the bat and I expect he can and will improve in both areas.

[scottbbfm]

At some point it doesn't really matter does it? Ryan Adams screwed up easy throws to first. Does that mean he wasn't a bad 2nd baseman - because those must have been mental mistakes? Yes, it seems like that should be correctable but that doesn't mean that it gets corrected. If simple plays don't get made you don't get a pass. Good fielders make the simple plays.

I do think that Reynolds will improve his defense. Why isn't he working with Bordy or Brooksie (if he's healthy enough)? We've had 2 of the best fielders on the left side of the diamond in history who would probably work with him on a regular basis.

You are correct, at some point it doesn't really matter. But at least we know he has the physical ability to make those plays, where with Adams, you really didn't. So I'm willing to stick it out a little longer with a guy like Mark.

[BaltimoreTerp]

Reynolds lifetime Fld% at 3rd base is an amazing .931 .... Since you don't understand the game ...that is Pathetic.

To compare that to other poor defensive Oriole 3rd baseman =

Floyd "Honey Bear" had the Exact same .931 Fld % and the cat like Wiggy had a .949 Fld % when he played 3rd ...yet somehow you think Reynolds isn't really that bad defensively at all.---- LOL

Using fielding percentage to judge defensive ability is like using RBIs to judge offensive ability. It can tell you some things, but those are overshadowed by all the things it doesn't tell you, which can be found using other, better methods. So to use those numbers may not show a lack of knowledge, but definitely a shallowness of understanding of the sport.

[LookitsPuck]

Using fielding percentage to judge defensive ability is like using RBIs to judge offensive ability. It can tell you some things, but those are overshadowed by all the things it doesn't tell you, which can be found using other, better methods. So to use those numbers may not show a lack of knowledge, but definitely a shallowness of understanding of the sport.

True, but a 931 fielding percentage is pretty damning.

[DrungoHazewood]

True, but a 931 fielding percentage is pretty damning.

Ned Williamson once fielded .807 and made 87 errors at third, while still being seven runs above average with the glove.

[El Gordo]

Ned Williamson once fielded .807 and made 87 errors at third, while still being seven runs above average with the glove.

I don't know about old Ned, those 27 HR in '84 set off my bull testicle alert.:laughlol:

[DrungoHazewood]

I don't know about old Ned, those 27 HR in '84 set off my bull testicle alert.:laughlol:

It helped that the Chicago nine played in Lakefront Park, where the fences were maybe 200, 220 feet from the plate. After '84 everything hit over the fence there was a ground rule double. They hit 142 homers, which led the NL by 102.

[LookitsPuck]

Ned Williamson once fielded .807 and made 87 errors at third, while still being seven runs above average with the glove.

The league's fielding percentage was also .835.

I don't put much stock into pre-1900 statistics.

[El Gordo]

The league's fielding percentage was also .835.

I don't put much stock into pre-1900 statistics.

Ned had great range.:laughlol:

[Frobby]

Reynolds lifetime Fld% at 3rd base is an amazing .931 .... Since you don't understand the game ...that is Pathetic.

To compare that to other poor defensive Oriole 3rd baseman =

Floyd "Honey Bear" had the Exact same .931 Fld % and the cat like Wiggy had a .949 Fld % when he played 3rd ...yet somehow you think Reynolds isn't really that bad defensively at all.---- LOL

Is anybody arguing that Reynolds has not been a below average defender in his career? Nobody that I've seen. It is simply a question of whether his defense can be expected to be better than what we have seen through 70 games this year. Since you feel like using fielding percentage, I would point out that statistic, by year, is:

.951 - 2007

.905 - 2008

.945 - 2009

.951 - 2010

That certainly suggests that this year's .890 to date is an aberration, and that he can field much better than that.

[DrungoHazewood]

The league's fielding percentage was also .835.

I don't put much stock into pre-1900 statistics.

C'mon! The National League in 1883 was almost as high quality as the Eastern League is today! Tell me you wouldn't love some BaySox games without gloves or pitchers mounds, and with the occasional Hall of Famer sprinkled in.

That certainly suggests that this year's .890 to date is an aberration, and that he can field much better than that.

Well, yea, since I believe only two major leaguers with any significant playing time have fielded under .900 in any season since WWII. IIRC, Butch Hobson and Ryan Braun.