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By interloper · Posted
Trading Santander is tough because teams who want him will be competitive teams looking for an offense-oriented rental. But what we want in return is like, a good bullpen arm at minimum, and said competitive team will be reluctant to give that up. It's easier if we're not a good team and the other team can give us prospects. But that's not what we're looking for right now. -
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I’d make a run at it in the order of Gunner/Adley and then Holliday. I’m not unwilling to do something with Burnes but I think I’d be out before he says yes. I would also try to do incentives to make deals more lucrative. Like the deal Seattle did with Julio Rodriguez. -
By interloper · Posted
Full agree here. David Rubenstein =/= spending $2-300 million dollars on a player suddenly. Delusional to think that, IMO. -
By CaptainRedbeard · Posted
My concern with extending Burnes is not so much his age, he’s got a lot going for him that should allow him to age well. He’s not overly reliant on velocity and has really great command, elite ability for spin, and could lean into throwing more sinkers/curves/sliders and fewer cutters than he does now. He also been a really durable SP his whole career. He checks a lot of boxes, even if he’s unlikely to ever be the 7 WAR pitcher he was once. Pitchers like Burnes can remain really effective into their mid-30s. The concern is just how much he’ll cost, for how long and the potential for injury for any pitcher. Pretty good chance he finishes in the Cy Young running this year and is going to want something around Gerrit Cole’s deal. I don’t think he signs an extension that doesn’t exceed that anyway, so he’s really going to just be a free agency signing. Burnes blowing out his arm on a $300M deal (or even “just” a $200M deal, which I think is the floor of what he’ll get if he performs as expected this year) could be pretty crippling to the Orioles, and I have a hard time believing the Orioles are going to outbid the big markets clubs for him. -
Sorry, I deleted the Grayson question because I saw it was being discussed in the Extension Priority thread and SG had mentioned he wasn't talking about pre-arb players here. But I wasn't fast enough for you guys. -
Exactly. We've got him for the entirety of his 20s. There's no need to guarantee him anything into his 30s, and it would only really work out in favor of the O's if he has a borderline HOF career. I like him; I don't like him that much. -
By Sanfran327 · Posted
Correct. Or worse, he could be Tim Lincecum, who was a generational pitcher with an incredibly short shelf life. Well, only worse if we extend him early and he breaks.
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