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Braves beat the Pirates in 19 innings on a horrible call by the umpire.


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Anyone else see this. Winning run at 3rd base ground ball in the infield that the 3rd baseman gets and fires it into the catcher who is blocking the plate completely and puts the tag on Julio Lugo of all people (although Lugo says he didn't feel the tag and the ump made the right call:rolleyes:), only one problem the ump called him safe!

This could be worse than the blown perfect game call IMO.

http://espn.go.com/blog/SweetSpot/post/_/id/14246/we-have-a-new-worst-call-ever

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I was posting in the Weird Baseball thread as it happened. Posted a few pictures there as well.

Yeah I just saw those pictures you posted in the other thread, pretty obvious that he was out. Not sure how you can call him safe there.

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I will tell you what, I still can't tell, definitiviely, if he was safe or out.

I will say that I am pretty sure he was out but they keep showing the replay on Mike and Mike and it looks like the sweep tag could have missed him.

EDIT: After seeing the pics in the other thread, it does appear he is out...However, I am not sure this is the worst call ever. So often, we as fans get upset when these umps assume a guy is out because the ball beats them. However, in this case, in real time speed, I can see how you would call him safe if you don't assume he is out just because the ball beats him. If you actually just watch the play, I can see how it could happen.

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After seeing the pics in the other thread, it does appear he is out...However, I am not sure this is the worst call ever. So often, we as fans get upset when these umps assume a guy is out because the ball beats them. However, in this case, in real time speed, I can see how you would call him safe if you don't assume he is out just because the ball beats him. If you actually just watch the play, I can see how it could happen.

Joe Sheehan made a good point on Twitter--would he have been called out if the exact same play had occurred in the 5th inning? Pretty sure the answer is no.

What thread are these pictures in? I looked at the replay, and I can't tell at all, either way.

Also, people are sensationalist. The Galarraga 27th out was much, MUCH worse than this.

In a vacuum this call is infinitely worse. The only reason the Galarraga play was so big was because it should have been the last play in a perfect game.

Edit: Here's the picture in question

http://i.imgur.com/JiMyv.jpg

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Well, if the umpire is going to claim that McKenry didn't tag him, then I suspect that that will be inviting/encouraging catchers to be more "physical" when making tags in the future .......... that Clint Hurdle, for example, will tell McHenry that next time, he should put his shoulder into the runner and literally pin him to the ground before he even sniffs home plate. In that case, the ump would NOT be able to say that the catcher never touched him, and Hurdle (and any other manager that followed suit) could say, "Hey, they gave us no choice. When he was out by 8 feet, the umpire used his Superman/X-Ray vision to determine that the tag was not made ... therefore, we have to tell our catchers to make more 'definitive' tags."

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I think the ump might've been in the wrong position. Those professional umpires are taught to position themselves down the "third-base line extended" for the very purpose of observing sweep tags. He got a little blocked out where he was.

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There isn't a doubt in my mind that the runner was out, and out by a mile. If you watch the replays you can see the glove react as it was touching Lugo. Unless McKinley is a practicing neurosurgeon in the offseason, I find it hard to believe he could control his wrists to make the glove look like a tag when it wasn't.

Just another embarrassment for baseball and its lack of replay. And another shovelful of evidence convincing me that umpires should be eliminated from the game as much and as soon as is practical.

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