Bigger Bust?

[Can_of_corn]

Hobgood

[eddie83]

Hobgood

John Lackey, ooops wrong team.

[Hank Scorpio]

I understand your frustration completely, but 2 wrongs don't make a right. It is clear that Wieters has been labeled very unfairly by a good number of posters. I think Wieters' long-gradual evolution into a top-notch catcher on defense and offense is plenty of vindication for him.

I've been a staunch Matt Wieters supporter through all of it, just for the record.

Matusz... I just don't know about Matusz.

[OFFNY]

I've been a staunch Matt Wieters supporter through all of it, just for the record.

Matusz... I just don't know about Matusz.

Me too regarding being a Wieters fan. Matt's growth since his call-up in June of 2009 has been very slow, very gradual ........ but VERY definitive, also. :thumbsup1: To me, he is currently the antithesis of a flash in the pan.

[Can_of_corn]

Matusz had huge success in the minors and a decent amount of success last season. I am willing to call this season a lost one and give him a clean slate next spring. I think it is premature to label him a bust.

[SrMeowMeow]

Not this idiocy again...

[jets4ever]

Neither. Matusz is having a terrible year for sure, but I'm not ready to write him off just yet. Give him an offseason to get healthy and in good shape and lets see how he does with a fresh start next spring. No way Wieters is a bust at all.

I completely agree.

[Hank Scorpio]

Not this idiocy again...

It's somewhat of a tongue in cheek poll.

So... kind of intentional idiocy.

But seriously, Matusz is brutal.

[Pedro Cerrano]

Matusz had a 3.1 WAR last year. Wieters' WAR this year is 3.6

This vote isn't as close as it should be IMO especially when you consider expectations when they were prospects.

But, I don't want to piss off SirMeowMeow with any more "idiocy".

[TonySoprano]

She votes "Matusz," and if anyone would know about bigger busts it's her.

[OFFNY]

This vote isn't as close as it should be ......

Yes. It is.

[MrOrange82]

She votes "Matusz," and if anyone would know about bigger busts it's her.

I really don't get the appeal. At all. Point taken, though.

Pedro...good grief. That is all.

[Pedro Cerrano]

I mean I agree Matusz has been bad but he didn't have the expectations and he was hurt this year. I'm willing to give him a pass for now and chalk this up as a lost/bad season.

[OFFNY]

I mean I agree Matusz has been bad but he didn't have the expectations and he was hurt this year. I'm willing to give him a pass for now, and chalk this up as a lost/bad season.

You're willing to give Matusz a pass for now, but yet you proclaimed Wieters to be "the biggest bust in franchise history" ??? Nice balanced thinking there.

[SrMeowMeow]

Matusz had a 3.1 WAR last year. Wieters' WAR this year is 3.6

This vote isn't as close as it should be IMO especially when you consider expectations when they were prospects.

But, I don't want to piss off SirMeowMeow with any more "idiocy".

If you want to say, "I'm really disappointed in Matt Wieters compared to my unrealistic expectations, and want to use ridiculous hyperbole to make that point," then go ahead. That's pretty dumb, but whatever.

If you're saying that the book has been written, Matusz and/or Wieters are what they are and that we now know they will never be the stars they were projected as, then that's just plain stupid. It flies in the face of everything we know about baseball. Every single year, players have down seasons, and mobs of fans and sportswriters shriek about how they're done. And then next season, they all look like idiots. Because they were being shortsighted and alarmist.