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Where will Price Fielder land this winter?  

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  1. 1. Where will Price Fielder land this winter?

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El Gordo Hangout Grand Counsel

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The Sox will have plenty of money coming off the books (approx 30 mil) with Ortiz and Drew alone to sign Fielder and acquire pitching. Plus they have another 6-10 mil potentail in smaller contracts with guys like Varitek/Scutaro/Wakefield etc, Plus another 9.5 mil on Papelbon, who I'm gonna guess Theo (being the astute GM I think he is) is not going to pay bigs bucks to retain as closer. In short, they'll have plenty of money available to accomplish multiple goals. I doubt they'll push their luck banking on Ortiz's continued production. That would be something we would do. Run differential is run differential. Not sayng they won't be outbid by a team like the Nats to a point it doesn't make sense, but they'll be in on Fielder imo.
Not likely. They have to replace all those people coming of the books and they need at least two good SP. They have a DH replacement in Youkilis. He is probably a better hitter than Fieder. Why waste that money on something you really don't need? They need pitching, a catcher, a 3B upgrade, a closer, and another OF.
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Not likely. They have to replace all those people coming of the books and they need at least two good SP. They have a DH replacement in Youkilis. He is probably a better hitter than Fieder. Why waste that money on something you really don't need? They need pitching, a catcher, a 3B upgrade, a closer, and another OF.

You think they will move Youk off third base to DH? Definitely a possibilty, I don't think he's very good there but haven't heard anything about it either. Then they'd have to get a third baseman and none are really avaialble except maybe Aram. Fielder is available. They have a capable young catcher in Saltalmachia and closer in Bard already in house. I'd be the first to say that spending big bucks on DH might not make a lot of sense, but there is going to be intense pressure to win here. Theo's ideology is generelly to dump old players (Like Ortiz) before they decline and acquire the 27/28 year old free agent types in their place. When you say why get something you don't need, are you considering the loss of Ortiz's production?

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BOS -- more likely to move Youklis to DH and promote Middlebrooks at 3B (batting him seventh or so to start the season).

CHN -- Cubs still make the most sense for Fielder

WAS -- could make another surprise splash on a big FA, but I think CHN more likely

LAA -- have 1b covered and when is the last time they ended up winning a bidding war of a big time FA?

LAN -- real possibility if ownership is in order

BAL -- if they are willing to outbid everyone, he would consider BAL (but I think it needs to be a fairly significant overbid if the choice is BAL/CHN)

MIL -- outside chance MIL gets a big enough boost with a WS appearance that Fielder entertains sticking in MIL for a shorter term, but still good payday

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BOS -- more likely to move Youklis to DH and promote Middlebrooks at 3B (batting him seventh or so to start the season).

CHN -- Cubs still make the most sense for Fielder

WAS -- could make another surprise splash on a big FA, but I think CHN more likely

LAA -- have 1b covered and when is the last time they ended up winning a bidding war of a big time FA?

LAN -- real possibility if ownership is in order

BAL -- if they are willing to outbid everyone, he would consider BAL (but I think it needs to be a fairly significant overbid if the choice is BAL/CHN)

MIL -- outside chance MIL gets a big enough boost with a WS appearance that Fielder entertains sticking in MIL for a shorter term, but still good payday

Do you really think the Sox would go with Middlebrooks to start the year at third base? Guy has 16 games in AAA. They seam to typically work their young guys in more gradually. Never thought Youk at third was a great idea for them and could definitely see see him going to DH though.

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You think they will move Youk off third base to DH? Definitely a possibilty, I don't think he's very good there but haven't heard anything about it either. Then they'd have to get a third baseman and none are really avaialble except maybe Aram. Fielder is available. They have a capable young catcher in Saltalmachia and closer in Bard already in house. I'd be the first to say that spending big bucks on DH might not make a lot of sense, but there is going to be intense pressure to win here. Theo's ideology is generelly to dump old players (Like Ortiz) before they decline and acquire the 27/28 year old free agent types in their place. When you say why get something you don't need, are you considering the loss of Ortiz's production?
I think Youk at DH would be an upgrade over Ortiz. If you think Salty and Bard are solid you must not have been watching Boston closely. And they need pitching. Theo is not one to blow a lot of money on any one player, especially one they don't need. They will go with Lowrie and Scutaro at SS/3B, if they can't upgrade there through trade.
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Do you really think the Sox would go with Middlebrooks to start the year at third base? Guy has 16 games in AAA. They seam to typically work their young guys in more gradually. Never thought Youk at third was a great idea for them and could definitely see see him going to DH though.

Yeah, I could see it happening. If they deem Middlebrooks ready he'll get a shot. They could also go defense first and let Iglesias play short while sliding Scutaro to 3b (assuming they exercise his option). I don't see a need for them to go spend big on a 3b. Middlebrooks and Iglesias are their Plan 1 for the left side, moving forward. I think they are done relying on Lowrie's health until he shows them he is a little more reliable as a 155 game player.

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Theo is not one to blow a lot of money on any one player, especially one they don't need.

Tell that to Carl Crawford. I think they'll be in, but Youk to DH also makes a lot of sense.

If you think Salty and Bard are solid you must not have been watching Boston closely.

Salty is a young catcher who is improving. They could upgrade but probably only need another vet to complement him. Bard had an ERA+ of 128 with a whip of 0.95 in an off year. I don't see any problems there.

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Yeah, I could see it happening. If they deem Middlebrooks ready he'll get a shot. They could also go defense first and let Iglesias play short while sliding Scutaro to 3b (assuming they exercise his option). I don't see a need for them to go spend big on a 3b. Middlebrooks and Iglesias are their Plan 1 for the left side, moving forward. I think they are done relying on Lowrie's health until he shows them he is a little more reliable as a 155 game player.

I just don't see that happening. I do think Lowrie could have been a viable option at third if healthy, but I do agree with you about the health issues. I'd say Youk to DH and an acquistion (trade/FA) for third base is more likely (assuming that's the route they go). I thnk Theo will be pulling out all the stops this year. I don't see a rookie third baseman or Scutaro there. We will see.

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Tell that to Carl Crawford. I think they'll be in, but Youk to DH also makes a lot of sense.

Salty is a young catcher who is improving. They could upgrade but probably only need another vet to complement him. Bard had an ERA+ of 128 with a whip of 0.95 in an off year. I don;t see any problems there.

They needed Crawford and who knew he would crap out this season. I don't think they are ready to give Bard the CL after his Sept. performance. They are more likely to keep Papp. And they need more RP besides Aceves And currently they only have 3 reliable SP. The only reason they would have to go after Fielder would be if they felt the MFY's were after him, and there is little likelyhood in that.
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I just don't see that happening. I do think Lowrie could have been a viable option at third if healthy, but I do agree with you about the health issues. I'd say Youk to DH and an acquistion (trade/FA) for third base is more likely (assuming that's the route they go). I thnk Theo will be pulling out all the stops this year. I don't see a rookie third baseman or Scutaro there. We will see.

They won't care about a "rookie" label, though if they don't deem Middlebrooks or Iglesias ready, they'll find a short term solution. I can't see them clogging things up with a long term signing. Maybe something like a trade for David Wright if the Mets make him available.

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BOS -- more likely to move Youklis to DH and promote Middlebrooks at 3B (batting him seventh or so to start the season).

CHN -- Cubs still make the most sense for Fielder

WAS -- could make another surprise splash on a big FA, but I think CHN more likely

LAA -- have 1b covered and when is the last time they ended up winning a bidding war of a big time FA?

LAN -- real possibility if ownership is in order

BAL -- if they are willing to outbid everyone, he would consider BAL (but I think it needs to be a fairly significant overbid if the choice is BAL/CHN)

MIL -- outside chance MIL gets a big enough boost with a WS appearance that Fielder entertains sticking in MIL for a shorter term, but still good payday

As of right now, the Cubs don't have the money to make a move for Fielder. Ricketts took on significant debt to buy the team, attendance has gone way down the last two years, and the Cubs are having trouble getting State/City funding for the new Wrigley Field makeover.

However, if they're able to save some money on Zambrano to the Marlins, they could be in play. As of right now, they aren't anywhere near as serious a bidder as many assume.

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As of right now, the Cubs don't have the money to make a move for Zambrano. Ricketts took on significant debt to buy the team, attendance has gone way down the last two years, and the Cubs are having trouble getting State/City funding for the new Wrigley Field makeover.

However, if they're able to save some money on Zambrano to the Marlins, they could be in play. As of right now, they aren't anywhere near as serious a bidder as many assume.

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