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Do you agree with Melewski's take on Stockstill interviewing for the GM job?


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Do you agree with Melewski's take on Stockstill interviewing for the GM job?  

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  1. 1. Do you agree with Melewski's take on Stockstill interviewing for the GM job?



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Namely, that the fan's reaction (which is overwhelmingly negative) is over-the-top.

Like I just tweeted back to him, folks are confusing him with his brother. Him being interviewed is a courtesy and hopefully a waste of time, but it isn't the total joke his brother getting interviewed would be.

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I do agree with his overall point that not everyone in the org is bad at their jobs. People have been positive about Matt Klentak and Mike Griffin for a while. I just don't think Melewski's examples of Stockstill doing a good job justify his GM interview. In the end, results are what people should be based on, and he has done very little over his time here to justify such a promotion.

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I voted No, and I'll explain why.

First, I heard Tony and understand this is the better of the brothers, and I can respect that.

However, the Orioles have interviewed two candidates that are top of the line in LaCava and Dipoto. They interviewed Watson in what seems to be a minority interview. They seem to plan on interviewing Levine.

There is NO need to interview Stockstill unless they think he has a chance over any of the three of LaCava, Dipoto, or Levine, or even Hart. If that is their thinking, then once again this Organization just doesn't get it.

If they are doing it so they can say they interviewed an internal candidate, well then again that is a waste of time and is not needed.

And if they are doing it because they truly want Stockstill, well then why bother interviewing the other guys who seem more qualified?

So we essentially come to either this interview being a waste of time and resources, or this interview will be to hire Stockstill and the other interviews were just for show. In either case, it shows where this organization stands and why we are so far behind the 8 ball.

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Maybe the fan's overwhelmingly negative reaction stems from them considering the status quo as being the primary problem. Hardly over-the-top after fourteen years of futility served up in every imaginable form.

If the Orioles actually have a chance to bring on board an executive the caliber of Dipoto, LaCava, Levine or even John Hart for that matter, I view that as an opportunity not to be wasted. Central to that opportunity is the possibility that the corporate culture could be changed for the better, even though bashing PA for everything is so fashionable at the moment. It would be unfortunate if John Stockstill's career suffers a setback, but I'm not sure why any of us should care.

The methodology needs to change. There's nothing about promoting from within that signals to the fan base that ownership get that.

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Like I just tweeted back to him, folks are confusing him with his brother. Him being interviewed is a courtesy and hopefully a waste of time, but it isn't the total joke his brother getting interviewed would be.

No he's not, but what has he done himself that deserves a promotion? I understand keeping him around, I don't think he's done a terrible job like his brother did, but I don't think he's excelled at his job enough to warrant jumping up to the big chair.

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I understand the fan reaction and I don't know how much of it is due to getting the Stockstills confused. I also understand what Steve is saying which is essentially guilt by association isn't fair and to some extent he is right.

I for one, will reserve my over the top reaction to when they hire him. Irrationally, it has nothing to do with him at all. He may turn out to be a good GM but at this point, no one in the organization gets the benefit of the doubt nor should they. Hiring Stockstill (rightfully or wrongly) will be viewed as status quo and that simply isn't good enough. I won't quit on the team because I can't but it would continue to reinforce the notion that this isn't getting better anytime soon.

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BTW, I bet the average/casual fan has no idea who John(or Dave) Stockstill are or even what their role in the organization is.

So, Melewski is speaking directly at a board like this one, where the fans are more knowledgable.

With that being the case, he should be able to figure out why people are upset and should know that we know the difference between Dave and John.

If you are going to speak at an audience, you should have an understanding of who the audience is.

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BTW, I bet the average/casual fan has no idea who John(or Dave) Stockstill are or even what their role in the organization is.

So, Melewski is speaking directly at a board like this one, where the fans are more knowledgable.

With that being the case, he should be able to figure out why people are upset and should know that we know the difference between Dave and John.

If you are going to speak at an audience, you should have an understanding of who the audience is.

The only two pulses the media has on the fanbase are the comments they get on their own stuff, and this message board around here. They read this site a lot more than people think (as you can tell when Roch will make a blog entry about something right after a debate gets stirred up here) and they know quite a few people by their handle. If you went up to him and introduced yourself, and said you were Sports Guy on here I'm pretty sure he'd know who you were.

That being said, I'm sure it's more of a blanket thing he's throwing out there with a lot of it being in defense of John because we are being really hard on him here. The thing is though, there is no bigger collection of passionate and informed O's fan anywhere, so he is going to get treated more harshly here. Especially after we have gone through 14 straight losing seasons with no end in sight and then hear that long time employees are getting promotions.

It's not that it's anything against John personally, I have heard favorable opinions of him, but it's ANYONE in this org getting a potential promotion that is the problem.

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I agree that some people's reaction to it has been over-the-top. I also agree with these two parts:

Because the team has lost for 14 years in a row doesn't make everything it does and everyone it employs bad.
None of this means he is the man to lead the Orioles out of 14 years of losing. But I think there is no downside to his getting a chance to be heard by Buck and Peter Angelos. He has been here long enough to have some serious opinions as to what needs to be fixed.

That said, it would be pretty hard to convince me that he's the best candidate to fix what is broken.

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I agree that some people's reaction to it has been over-the-top. I also agree with these two parts:

That said, it would be pretty hard to convince me that he's the best candidate to fix what is broken.

Are we to believe that PA and perhaps Buck have never heard what Stockstill has to say before?

This idea that you do this as a courtesy and things like that is bs. You don't have to do this. You interview the guys who you feel are qualified and deserve the chance to be interviewed for one of the rarest jobs in the entire world.

No way Stockstill deserves that and he sure as hell doesn't deserve it over many other outside candidates.

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Are we to believe that PA and perhaps Buck have never heard what Stockstill has to say before?

This idea that you do this as a courtesy and things like that is bs. You don't have to do this. You interview the guys who you feel are qualified and deserve the chance to be interviewed for one of the rarest jobs in the entire world.

No way Stockstill deserves that and he sure as hell doesn't deserve it over many other outside candidates.

I find myself thinking...he doesn't have a position to tell them what's broken and help to fix it right now? I'd think his position puts him in the top 5 in the org, that should be good enough to get into those meetings, and if he hasn't opened his mouth to say what is wrong before now, something is wrong with that too.

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