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[Remember The Alomar]

Bad for baseball because less money will drive talent to other sports. Bad for the Orioles because it ends the era where they could spend a relatively small amount of money and get more value out of the draft.

Pretty much this.

[Crazysilver03]

I think you are spot on. I assume that more players are going to go to college rather than enter the draft out of High School.

I was thinking the opposite, at least for the top guys. If they can't really increase their payday that much by going to college it might make them more likely to sign as a high schooler to get their career started.

[Crazysilver03]

"Teams in the ten smallest markets and with the ten lowest revenues will enter a lottery for six additional first and second round picks, according to Bill Shaikin of the LA Times (on Twitter)."

Without doing the research myself, do we know who would have fallen into this category from this past season?

[erb8472]

Without doing the research myself, do we know who would have fallen into this category from this past season?

Smallest Markets - http://www.baseball-almanac.com/articles/baseball_markets.shtml

Milwaukee Brewers

Kansas City Royals

Cincinnati Reds

Pittsburgh Pirates

Tampa Bay Devil Rays

Colorado Rockies

St Louis Cardinals

San Diego Padres

Cleveland Indians

Minnesota Twins

Revenue - http://www.forbes.com/lists/2011/33/baseball-valuations-11_land.html

Florida Marlins

San Diego Padres

Pittsburgh Pirates

Kansas City Royals

Oakland Athletics

Tampa Bay Rays

Toronto Blue Jays

Cleveland Indians

Baltimore Orioles

Cincinatti Reds

[Crazysilver03]

Smallest Markets - http://www.baseball-almanac.com/articles/baseball_markets.shtml

Milwaukee Brewers

Kansas City Royals

Cincinnati Reds

Pittsburgh Pirates

Tampa Bay Devil Rays

Colorado Rockies

St Louis Cardinals

San Diego Padres

Cleveland Indians

Minnesota Twins

Revenue - http://www.forbes.com/lists/2011/33/baseball-valuations-11_land.html

Florida Marlins

San Diego Padres

Pittsburgh Pirates

Kansas City Royals

Oakland Athletics

Tampa Bay Rays

Toronto Blue Jays

Cleveland Indians

Baltimore Orioles

Cincinatti Reds

So the World Series winner would gain 6 extra draft picks. Is that a flaw in the system?

[erb8472]

So the World Series winner would gain 6 extra draft picks. Is that a flaw in the system?

Where did it say they would get 6 additional draft picks? The way I read it those teams would have a shot at getting one of six extra 1st round picks and six extra 2nd round picks.

[Mr Snuffleupagus]

Without doing the research myself, do we know who would have fallen into this category from this past season?

10 Smallest Markets(per Baseball Almanac)

2,968,806 Minnesota Twins

2,945,831 Cleveland Indians

2,813,833 San Diego Padres

2,603,607 St Louis Cardinals

2,581,506 Colorado Rockies

2,395,997 Tampa Bay Devil Rays

2,358,695 Pittsburgh Pirates

1,979,202 Cincinnati Reds

1,776,062 Kansas City Royals

1,689,572 Milwaukee Brewers

The Orioles share a market of roughly 7.6M with the Washington Nationals. I'm not smart enough to know if you just cut that in half to figure market share, but if you did, we're right in the middle of the pack.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/articles/baseball_markets.shtml

10 Smallest Revenues (per Forbes)

Cincinnati Reds 179M

Baltimore Orioles 175M

Cleveland Indians 168M

Toronto Blue Jays 168M

Tampa Bay Rays 166M

Oakland Athletics 161M

Kansas City Royals 160M

Pittsburgh Pirates 160M

San Diego Padres 159M

Florida Marlins 143M

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2011/33/baseball-valuations-11_land.html

EDIT: Guess I was like 20min late to the party... But I'm not about to delete all this copying and pasting.

EDIT II: Corrected Revenues

[Sports Guy]

Bad for baseball because less money will drive talent to other sports. Bad for the Orioles because it ends the era where they could spend a relatively small amount of money and get more value out of the draft.

Yea, i don't buy this at all...and the Orioles didn't take enough of an advantage of this anyway.

In fact, this could be better for the Orioles because now it will be easier to take BPA than signability guy.

[erb8472]

Looks like you looked at the 10 least valueable franchises. It's actually the ten lowest revenues.

[Mr Snuffleupagus]

Where did it say they would get 6 additional draft picks? The way I read it those teams would have a shot at getting one of six extra 1st round picks and six extra 2nd round picks.

It's interesting that 5 teams appear on both list. I assume that means they get 2 chances in the lottery. In other words, there are 20 "chances" to get an extra pick, and 10 of them will be going to the same 5 teams every year. :scratchchinhmm:

Market size doesn't change much from season to season... Revenue varies slightly, but largely goes unchanged. Isn't this just going to be the same 15 or so teams every year?

[Crazysilver03]

Where did it say they would get 6 additional draft picks? The way I read it those teams would have a shot at getting one of six extra 1st round picks and six extra 2nd round picks.

Ah that makes sense. I missed the part that it was a lottery.

[erb8472]

Maybe a better way to look at it would have been 10 lowest W/L % among Big League and Minor League affiliates.

[bandy75]

Where did it say they would get 6 additional draft picks? The way I read it those teams would have a shot at getting one of six extra 1st round picks and six extra 2nd round picks.

I believe it's actually one of 6 picks sandwiched between the first and second round.

10 Smallest Markets(per Baseball Almanac)

10 Smallest Revenues (per Forbes)

Detroit Tigers ($385M)

Milwaukee Brewers ($376M)

Cincinnati Reds ($375M)

Florida Marlins ($360M)

Cleveland Indians ($353M)

Kansas City Royals ($351M)

Toronto Blue Jays ($337M)

Tampa Bay Rays ($331M)

Oakland Athletics ($307M)

Pittsburgh Pirates ($301M)

The Orioles came in at number 18 on the list. Valued $26M higher then the Tigers at $411M.

So, if our value keeps crumbling, we could get another pick out of it.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2011/33/baseball-valuations-11_land.html

EDIT: Guess I was like 20min late to the party... But I'm not about to delete all this copying and pasting.

Those are the franchise values, Baltimore falls into the bottom 10 in terms of revenue.

[erb8472]

I believe it's actually one of 6 picks sandwiched between the first and second round.

Yeah it wasn't very clear in what I read if it was 6 picks total between both 1st and 2nd round or 12 picks total with 6 in each round.

[Mr Snuffleupagus]

Looks like you looked at the 10 least valueable franchises. It's actually the ten lowest revenues.

Ah, yes. My bad. Fixed it.